Genetic portrait of Piast Dynasty

The genetic portrait of the Piast Dynasty

This project aims to unravel the genetic portrait of the Piast Dynasty, the first historical ruling dynasty of Poland, which reigned from the 10th to the 14th century. By employing advanced genetic analysis techniques, including DNA sequencing of ancient remains, this study seeks to uncover the hereditary characteristics and ancestral origins of the Piast rulers. This research not only provides a deeper understanding of the genetic makeup of one of Europe's formative dynasties but also offers significant insights into the broader historical and migratory patterns in medieval Europe. The findings from this project are expected to enhance our comprehension of early European dynastic histories and contribute to the fields of genetics, archaeology, and medieval studies, thereby enriching our knowledge of cultural and biological heritage.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB78346

Secondary Study Accession: ERP162650
Study Title: The genetic portrait of the Piast Dynasty
Center Name: Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry Polish Academy of Sciences
Study Name: The Piast Dynasty
ENA-FIRST-PUBLIC: 2025-05-29
ENA-LAST-UPDATE: 2025-05-29

On Monday 2 June we will get to know what was the haplogroup of the Piast Dynasty:

https://pan-pl.translate.goog/zapros...en&_x_tr_hl=pl

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Peterski

Are these really Piast samples?

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Piast dynasty

Quote:

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Piast?:PCA0252B,0.125205,0.094444,0.075801,0.07396 7,0.040931,0.012829,-0.00047,0.013846,-0.008999,-0.027882,-0.000487,-0.01094,0.008771,0.022708,-0.002036,0.016839,0.017211,0.008108,0.00176,0.0043 77,0.01148,-0.000989,0.01405,-0.007109,0.010538
Piast?:PCA0660,0.121791,0.089367,0.047517,0.045866 ,0.028928,0.02259,0.00329,0.023307,-0.014726,-0.026971,-0.004547,-0.013638,0.014569,0.026148,-0.005972,-0.015248,-0.007823,-0.004561,0.001383,0.003001,0.006239,0.007172,0.014 79,-0.013134,0.013891
Piast?:PCA0648,0.097888,0.101553,0.063356,0.044574 ,0.032314,0.033746,0.00517,0.005077,0.007976,-0.010023,0.004547,0.00015,0.020664,0.020781,-0.010586,-0.016441,-0.030771,-0.00152,0.020112,0.002001,-0.01148,0.004204,-0.012448,-0.006025,-0.005748
Piast?:PCA0657,0.114961,0.110693,0.059208,0.019703 ,0.024928,0.019801,0.011986,0.013615,0.018612,-0.016037,-0.018675,-0.020382,-0.009514,0.018717,-0.02728,-0.005304,-0.001825,0.014696,-0.005782,0.008879,-0.009483,-0.000247,0.016022,-0.001566,0.01892
Piast?:PCA0573B,0.125205,0.142174,0.052797,0.03391 5,0.038161,0.019243,0.00047,-0.003,0.011249,-0.017859,-0.007795,0.004796,-0.004311,-0.005643,0.01045,0.019888,0.001825,-0.006841,0.003142,0.012631,0.007112,0.013602,0.007 395,0.010001,-0.002275

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elite of the Piast dynasty

Quote:

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Polish:PCA0251,0.129758,0.128972,0.082589,0.063954 ,0.040315,0.024542,0.00094,0.006,-0.001227,-0.020593,0.002273,-0.009442,0.017245,0.029314,-0.005157,-0.00411,0.007562,-0.002154,-0.000126,-0.003001,-0.002496,-0.001113,0.002218,0.009399,-0.004191
Polish:PCA0573,0.122929,0.129988,0.059962,0.043282 ,0.035391,0.023148,0.021856,0.015692,0.008795,-0.009112,-0.000325,-0.006744,0.000892,-0.000963,0.013436,0.011535,0.003651,-0.001267,0.018855,0.004127,0.008235,-0.008656,-0.010106,0.001687,-0.00934
Polish:PCA0574,0.125205,0.13405,0.068259,0.07106,0 .041854,0.039602,0.00705,-0.002538,0.005522,-0.020593,0.015102,0.005095,-0.004014,0.011973,0.013843,0.003315,-0.018645,0.006461,-0.008547,0.037643,-0.004118,-0.006801,0.006779,0.00253,0.003353
Polish:PCA0574B,0.114961,0.117801,0.061471,0.06750 7,0.019388,0.018965,-0.00376,0.01823,-0.0045,-0.005832,0.001786,-0.010641,-0.006095,0.017478,-0.016286,-0.009281,0.00352,0.009248,0.017095,0.003877,-0.024582,-0.000124,0.00986,-0.003494,0.009221
Polish:PCA0617,0.118376,0.13405,0.064865,0.050711, 0.050471,0.02008,0.004935,0.016384,0.005931,-0.009841,-0.012666,-0.003897,0.006244,0.016515,-0.011265,0.001326,-0.002999,0.007348,-0.00905,0.005002,-0.006863,-0.003957,0.008381,0.01458,-0.010418
Polish:PCA0618,0.130897,0.123895,0.067882,0.04199, 0.035083,0.028726,0.00893,0.012923,0.001023,-0.002005,-0.001461,-0.010341,0.010555,0.016515,0.004072,0.003845,-0.014473,0.007601,0.011941,-0.001626,-0.000125,-0.009398,0.005423,-0.000602,0.003952
Polish:PCA0620,0.124067,0.131003,0.054682,0.044251 ,0.038776,0.014223,0.010105,0.011307,0.001227,-0.005285,-0.000974,-3e-04,-0.004906,0.014863,0.003393,0.001061,0.007953,-0.001774,0.00993,-0.007379,-0.003119,0.002102,0.010599,0.007109,-0.002994
Polish:PCA0643,0.099026,0.094444,0.047517,0.031331 ,0.020927,0.019801,0.019506,0.003231,-0.021884,-0.02278,-0.012829,0.014687,-0.001933,-0.010459,0.010043,0.02559,0.014864,0.005194,0.0028 91,0.001876,-0.004367,-0.001855,0.001972,0.005784,0.003233
Polish:PCA0644,0.142279,0.114755,0.069767,0.052649 ,0.028313,0.035419,-0.00893,0.010384,0.003272,-0.020775,0.014777,-0.002997,0.018583,0.004954,-0.031351,-0.005569,-0.001825,-0.00038,-0.013701,-0.006628,0.004742,0.003957,0.010723,0.002048,0.012 214
Polish:PCA0645,0.135449,0.117801,0.064111,0.061693 ,0.023697,0.029005,-0.00047,0.001154,0.003477,-0.025878,0.001786,-0.021281,0.013082,0.026011,0.0076,-0.006497,-0.023469,0.004307,-0.005028,-0.016883,0.004243,0.027698,0.000739,-0.00482,-0.010059
Polish:PCA0649,0.120652,0.099522,0.054682,0.049419 ,0.025235,0.026774,-0.00094,-0.000231,-0.01084,-0.016766,0.002273,-0.005545,0.008325,0.020919,-0.008143,-0.003978,-0.011604,0.011529,0.004274,-0.007879,-0.018842,0.00272,0.007395,-0.006748,-0.009221
Polish:PCA0663,0.124067,0.123895,0.058831,0.076551 ,0.047393,0.017291,0.002115,0.015692,0.006136,-0.030251,-0.00065,-0.003597,0.00773,0.03413,-0.003257,-0.008884,-0.017211,-0.019257,-0.000628,-0.004252,-0.011979,-0.003339,-0.013064,-0.001687,0.000718

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plus other Polish samples



Target: cass
Distance: 0.6146% / 0.00614594 | ADC: 0.5x RC
21.8 Polish:PCA0618
12.8 Poland_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope:PCA0103__AD_300__C ov_74.27%
12.2 Piast?:PCA0573B
11.4 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
10.6 Polish:PCA0620
8.8 Polish:PCA0617
8.6 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0187__AD_1100__Cov_16.32%
5.6 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0122__AD_950__Cov_32.59%
4.6 Poland_Bodzia_VA:VK155__AD_1000__Cov_20.85%
3.6 Poland_Pruszcz_Gdanski_IA:PCA0498__AD_200__Cov_14. 98%

Target: cass
Distance: 0.4111% / 0.00411138 | ADC: 0.25x RC
16.8 Polish:PCA0618
14.4 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0187__AD_1100__Cov_16.32%
12.6 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
9.8 Piast?:PCA0573B
9.6 Poland_Konskie_MA:PCA0309__AD_1100__Cov_18.32%
7.8 Poland_Niemcza_MA_oBalkans:PCA0126__AD_950__Cov_26 .60%
6.4 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0040__AD_200__Cov_17.76%
5.8 Poland_Santok_MA:PCA0399__AD_1100__Cov_18.13%
5.8 Polish:PCA0617
4.8 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0102__AD_300__Cov_14.17%
3.4 Poland_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope:PCA0103__AD_300__C ov_74.27%
2.8 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0140__AD_950__Cov_26.81%

Distance to: cass
0.02917306 Polish:PCA0618
0.03165306 Polish:PCA0620
0.03229626 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0122__AD_950__Cov_32.59%
0.03373615 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0187__AD_1100__Cov_16.32%
0.03385271 Poland_Viking.SG:VK154_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_90.3 9%
0.03400179 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
0.03412573 Polish:PCA0617
0.03548201 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0146__AD_950__Cov_17.03%
0.03680430 Poland_Viking.SG:VK156_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_53.7 3%
0.03680537 Poland_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope:PCA0103__AD_300__C ov_74.27%
0.03741509 Poland_Viking.SG:VK157_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_47.3 0%
0.03786296 Polish:PCA0251
0.03855874 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0027__AD_200__Cov_26.91%
0.03876781 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0063__AD_200__Cov_28.45%
0.03937424 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0198__AD_1100__Cov_22.83%
0.03938082 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0339__AD_1100__Cov_38 .61%
0.03958413 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0088__AD_300__Cov_29.37%
0.03985382 Poland_Weklice_WielbarkCulture_Roman.SG:R10634.SG_ _AD_75__Cov_60.11%
0.04059660 Poland_Maszycka_Magdalenian:MAZ001__BC_16435__Cov_ 2.25%
0.04066400 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0089__AD_300__Cov_30.27%
0.04085869 Poland_Viking.SG:VK494_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_12.5 1%
0.04102797 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0092__AD_300__Cov_32.64%
0.04103291 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0332__AD_1100__Cov_25 .61%
0.04129695 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0124__AD_950__Cov_43.78%
0.04148383 Poland_Konskie_MA:PCA0309__AD_1100__Cov_18.32%



Target: cass
Distance: 0.5487% / 0.00548685 | R4P
26.6 Polish:PCA0618
19.2 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
18.2 Piast?:PCA0573B
8.0 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0187__AD_1100__Cov_16.32%
7.8 Polish:PCA0663
6.0 Polish:PCA0617
5.4 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0181__AD_1100__Cov_17.14%
3.6 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0142__AD_950__Cov_17.33%
2.6 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0133__AD_950__Cov_9.52%
2.6 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0140__AD_950__Cov_26.81%

Target: cass
Distance: 0.6123% / 0.00612310 | R3P
28.0 Polish:PCA0618
25.2 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
15.2 Piast?:PCA0573B
10.8 Polish:PCA0663
8.8 Polish:PCA0617
4.8 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0133__AD_950__Cov_9.52%
3.2 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0140__AD_950__Cov_26.81%
2.6 Polish:PCA0644
1.4 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0142__AD_950__Cov_17.33%

According to Figlerowicz the main line of Piasts was R1b-S747 (in ancient DNA found among the Picts, today mainly in the UK):

[R1b-S747 is also known as R1b-L1335]

https://i.imgur.com/SKJAHqf.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/2ZddE2R.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/Csg0ZnS.jpeg

However, another geneticist M. Golubinski checked Piast samples published at ENA and he thinks that it was rather R1b-U152.

We will see who is right in near future.

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Also it can be added that the oldest tested Piast (PIAST01) is either Wladyslaw Herman or Boleslaw III Krzywousty.

So we don't know if there were any non-paternity events among previous Piasts between Mieszko I and Boleslaw III.

For example there is a theory that Krzywousty was not a biological son of Herman.

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Edit:

From another forum:

“PIAST02 dated to 1113, with an estimated age of 40 years, would perfectly match Zbigniew, the first-born son of Wladyslaw Herman and his first Polish wife, Przeclawa.”

The Piast Dynasty versus the elites
https://i.ibb.co/gMq5PB3f/Vahaduo-Gl...ope-PCA-73.png


and vs early Polish Slavs.
https://i.ibb.co/Mx4fSdKK/Vahaduo-Gl...ope-PCA-74.png

and vs Polish Vikings
https://i.ibb.co/xtvhXY4L/Vahaduo-Gl...ope-PCA-75.png

Which one of them is the oldest?


vs ancient Polish samples
Distance to: Piast?:PCA0573B
0.04150935 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0111__AD_300__Cov_11.59%
0.04273888 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0059__AD_200__Cov_78.42%
0.04328415 Poland_Lad_MA_oWestEurope:PCA0201__AD_1100__Cov_13 .09%
0.04475526 Poland_Gaski_IA:PCA0011__BC_50__Cov_28.25%
0.04533419 Poland_Southeast_BellBeaker.SG:pcw260_noUDG.SG__BC _2287__Cov_65.88%
0.04771171 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz720__BC_1268__Cov_46.60%
0.04838819 Poland_BellBeaker:I6583__BC_2188__Cov_71.95%
0.04903514 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0063__AD_200__Cov_28.45%
0.04966512 Poland_Santok_MA_oEEF:PCA0391__AD_1100__Cov_11.68%
0.04974238 Poland_Weklice_WielbarkCulture_Roman.SG:R10631.SG_ _AD_75__Cov_44.50%
0.04981462 Polish:PCA0620
0.04982647 Poland_Maslomecz_IA:PCA0088__AD_300__Cov_29.37%
0.04986427 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0046__AD_200__Cov_81.13%
0.05135640 Poland_BellBeaker:I4253__BC_2316__Cov_38.75%
0.05157803 Poland_Weklice_WielbarkCulture_Roman.SG:R10618.SG_ _AD_161__Cov_55.41%
0.05215768 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0060__AD_200__Cov_71.91%
0.05217713 Poland_Pruszcz_Gdanski_IA:PCA0498__AD_200__Cov_14. 98%
0.05229219 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0040__AD_200__Cov_17.76%
0.05253224 Poland_Pruszcz_Gdanski_IA:PCA0479__AD_200__Cov_14. 63%
0.05288874 Polish:PCA0573
0.05311780 Poland_EBA_Unetice.SG:RISE154_noUDG.SG__BC_1836__C ov_14.37%
0.05330691 Poland_Gaski_IA_oEEF:PCA0012__BC_50__Cov_18.40%
0.05486556 Poland_Southeast_BellBeaker.SG:pcw280_noUDG.SG__BC _2300__Cov_24.74%
0.05495687 Poland_ChopiceVeseleCulture:I6537__BC_2180__Cov_45 .56%
0.05504141 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz714__BC_1395__Cov_unknown

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0657
0.05958379 Poland_Santok_MA_oEEF:PCA0411__AD_1100__Cov_10.46%
0.06057471 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0146__AD_950__Cov_17.03%
0.06239263 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0143__AD_950__Cov_35.02%
0.06557753 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0140__AD_950__Cov_26.81%
0.06634300 Poland_Niemcza_MA_oBalkans:PCA0126__AD_950__Cov_26 .60%
0.06784383 Polish:PCA0617
0.06815192 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0332__AD_1100__Cov_25 .61%
0.06865761 Polish:PCA0618
0.07009727 Polish:PCA0574B
0.07078916 Polish:PCA0620
0.07166373 Piast?:PCA0660
0.07185669 Polish:PCA0649
0.07468529 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0124__AD_950__Cov_43.78%
0.07572856 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0192__AD_1100__Cov_14.90%
0.07582489 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0158__AD_1100__Cov_30.41%
0.07604949 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0191__AD_1100__Cov_13.12%
0.07609636 Poland_Santok_MA:PCA0426__AD_1100__Cov_11.83%
0.07664156 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0339__AD_1100__Cov_38 .61%
0.07736478 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0187__AD_1100__Cov_16.32%
0.07776490 Poland_Plonsk_MA:PCA0328__AD_1100__Cov_24.90%
0.07796570 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0156__AD_1100__Cov_10.37%
0.07857573 Polish:PCA0644
0.07883197 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0142__AD_950__Cov_17.33%
0.07996906 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0335__AD_1100__Cov_22 .01%
0.08005299 Poland_Poznan_MA:PCA0549__AD_1100__Cov_11.03%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0648
0.05371016 Polish:PCA0649
0.06257479 Polish:PCA0618
0.06329897 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0158__AD_1100__Cov_30.41%
0.06529951 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0339__AD_1100__Cov_38 .61%
0.06574102 Poland_Santok_MA:PCA0426__AD_1100__Cov_11.83%
0.06595075 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0143__AD_950__Cov_35.02%
0.06598282 Poland_Krakow_MA:VK210__AD_1150__Cov_3.48%
0.06626420 Poland_Niemcza_MA_oBalkans:PCA0126__AD_950__Cov_26 .60%
0.06637042 Poland_Viking.SG:VK494_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_12.5 1%
0.06714570 Poland_Maslomecz_IA_oEastEurope:PCA0103__AD_300__C ov_74.27%
0.06753904 Poland_Rumin_MA:PCA0246__AD_1100__Cov_14.86%
0.06826917 Poland_Poznan_MA:PCA0549__AD_1100__Cov_11.03%
0.06959491 Polish:PCA0663
0.07022199 Poland_Kowalewko_IA:PCA0065__AD_200__Cov_11.62%
0.07039184 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0146__AD_950__Cov_17.03%
0.07052940 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0332__AD_1100__Cov_25 .61%
0.07057694 Poland_Plonsk_MA:PCA0297__AD_1100__Cov_12.58%
0.07068817 Piast?:PCA0660
0.07109305 Polish:PCA0574B
0.07164242 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz672__BC_1529__Cov_26.06%
0.07249988 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0156__AD_1100__Cov_10.37%
0.07258610 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz747__BC_1391__Cov_29.66%
0.07296643 Poland_Milicz_MA:PCA0541__AD_1100__Cov_11.98%
0.07371828 Polish:PCA0645
0.07376009 Poland_Legowo_MA:PCA0166__AD_1100__Cov_20.27%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0660
0.05365808 Polish:PCA0649
0.05623102 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0158__AD_1100__Cov_30.41%
0.05801442 Poland_Markowice_MA:PCA0156__AD_1100__Cov_10.37%
0.05892795 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0143__AD_950__Cov_35.02%
0.06040107 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0339__AD_1100__Cov_38 .61%
0.06066539 Poland_Plonsk_MA:PCA0297__AD_1100__Cov_12.58%
0.06204453 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0335__AD_1100__Cov_22 .01%
0.06342743 Poland_Poznan_MA:PCA0549__AD_1100__Cov_11.03%
0.06363482 Piast?:PCA0252B
0.06385886 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0332__AD_1100__Cov_25 .61%
0.06507441 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0142__AD_950__Cov_17.33%
0.06610405 Polish:PCA0618
0.06677368 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz672__BC_1529__Cov_26.06%
0.06704124 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0137__AD_950__Cov_33.16%
0.06705067 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0122__AD_950__Cov_32.59%
0.06723771 Poland_Santok_MA:PCA0426__AD_1100__Cov_11.83%
0.06728565 Poland_Legowo_MA:PCA0166__AD_1100__Cov_20.27%
0.06753461 Poland_Plonsk_MA:PCA0327__AD_1100__Cov_unknown
0.06820326 Polish:PCA0574B
0.06868936 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0133__AD_950__Cov_9.52%
0.06905197 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0197__AD_1100__Cov_16.69%
0.06910021 Polish:PCA0644
0.06926670 Poland_Santok_MA_oEEF:PCA0411__AD_1100__Cov_10.46%
0.06930333 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0146__AD_950__Cov_17.03%
0.06938113 Polish:PCA0645

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0252B
0.04654833 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0206__AD_1100__Cov_14.81%
0.04693816 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0185__AD_1100__Cov_11.06%
0.04776602 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz700__BC_1312__Cov_61.82%
0.04866458 Poland_Rumin_MA:PCA0244__AD_1100__Cov_16.15%
0.04870419 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz709__BC_1597__Cov_20.02%
0.04949599 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz655__BC_1402__Cov_21.19%
0.05010661 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0137__AD_950__Cov_33.16%
0.05092038 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz551_2__BC_1250__Cov_7.76%
0.05111345 Poland_Plonsk_MA_oBaltic:PCA0324__AD_1100__Cov_19. 34%
0.05117941 Poland_Dziekanowice_22_MA:PCA0359__AD_1100__Cov_27 .40%
0.05202069 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz711__BC_1471__Cov_34.63%
0.05280495 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0197__AD_1100__Cov_16.69%
0.05295718 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0194__AD_1100__Cov_41.11%
0.05308933 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz747__BC_1391__Cov_29.66%
0.05317424 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0340__AD_1100__Cov_42 .73%
0.05332909 Poland_Ostrow_Lednicki_MA:PCA0343__AD_1100__Cov_32 .47%
0.05350952 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0148__AD_950__Cov_51.95%
0.05374768 Poland_Viking.SG:VK156_noUDG.SG__AD_1000__Cov_53.7 3%
0.05414353 Poland_Dziekanowice_22_MA:PCA0354__AD_1100__Cov_57 .60%
0.05450808 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0192__AD_1100__Cov_14.90%
0.05500462 Poland_Niemcza_MA:PCA0122__AD_950__Cov_32.59%
0.05511502 Poland_Lad_MA:PCA0203__AD_1100__Cov_15.12%
0.05520297 Poland_Legowo_MA:PCA0167__AD_1100__Cov_32.13%
0.05578457 Poland_CordedWare_1.SG:N49_noUDG.SG__BC_2425__Cov_ 79.78%
0.05582233 Poland_CordedWare_1.SG:N47_noUDG.SG__BC_2425__Cov_ 85.18%

Without precise dating, it is difficult to draw any firm conclusions. It is well known that royal elites have always been cosmopolitan.




Piast vs ancient global before 1300AD

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0573B
0.03149513 Iceland_Viking.SG:VK101.SG__AD_1100__Cov_86.62%
0.03302782 Belgium_Sint-Truiden_EarlyLateMedieval:OLV054__AD_1000__Cov_36. 59%
0.03420997 Denmark_Zealand_Medieval_Saxon.AG:KPN004.A.AG__AD_ 1050__Cov_57.86%
0.03504320 Belgium_StRombout_Cemetery_Medieval:STR204__AD_125 0__Cov_70.76%
0.03507576 Croatia_Gepidic.AG:I27295.AG__AD_500__Cov_71.92%
0.03511223 Belgium_Wulpen_HighLateMedieval:WPK005__AD_1200__C ov_65.08%
0.03511999 Hungary_Langobard.AG:SZ24.AG__AD_508__Cov_39.85%
0.03549809 England_Saxon.AG:SED012.AG__AD_750__Cov_18.39%
0.03568725 Netherlands_Groningen_Medieval_Saxon.AG:GRO012.A.A G__AD_900__Cov_74.85%
0.03586832 Germany_Petersberg_VA:KH150005__AD_1068__Cov_91.18 %
0.03599512 Denmark_Viking.SG:VK319.SG__AD_800__Cov_44.69%
0.03605584 Germany_Drantum_Medieval_Saxon.AG:DRU007.A.AG__AD_ 750__Cov_45.87%
0.03617585 Belgium_Koksijde_LateMerovingian:KOS017__AD_619__C ov_99.72%
0.03631053 Denmark_Medieval.SG:CGG100748.SG__AD_1150__Cov_67. 37%
0.03662201 Hungary_Langobard.SG:SZ11.SG__AD_508__Cov_99.93%
0.03724330 Hungary_SoutheasternTransdanubia_EarlyHungarian:AH PS153__AD_950__Cov_33.50%
0.03761976 England_Viking.SG:VK166.SG__AD_940__Cov_96.85%
0.03780213 England_EarlyMedieval.AG:I17276.AG__AD_550__Cov_74 .40%
0.03782129 Slovakia_Poprad.SG:DA119.SG__AD_350__Cov_55.22%
0.03827954 Denmark_Viking.SG:VK87.SG__AD_875__Cov_95.75%
0.03863178 Ireland_Kilteasheen_EarlyMedieval_AngloSaxon_Norma n.AG:KIL037.A.AG__AD_1000__Cov_84.12%
0.03868005 Czechia_BA_BellBeaker.AG:I7269.AG__BC_2250__Cov_61 .25%
0.03873208 Belgium_Wulpen_HighLateMedieval:WPK006__AD_974__Co v_58.51%
0.03883041 Denmark_Zealand_Medieval_Saxon.AG:KPN003.A.AG__AD_ 1050__Cov_77.56%
0.03902396 Hungary_Avar.AG:RKF275.AG__AD_737__Cov_84.44%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0657
0.05430702 Hungary_SoutheasternTransdanubia_EarlyHungarian:AH PS190W__AD_950__Cov_52.48%
0.05577950 Russia_Viking.SG:VK254.SG__AD_1000__Cov_43.63%
0.05643734 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG:SH-251.SG__AD_975__Cov_72.35%
0.05680202 Hungary_SoutheasternTransdanubia_EarlyHungarian:AH PS195W__AD_950__Cov_46.04%
0.05703472 Poland_Santok_IA.SG:PCA0411.SG__AD_1100__Cov_11.02 %
0.05846769 Hungary_EarlyAvar.SG:SZF-181.SG__AD_683__Cov_89.68%
0.05849529 Hungary_EarlyArpadian.SG:VPB-600.SG__AD_1000__Cov_66.14%
0.05854952 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG:SZA-29.SG__AD_950__Cov_88.54%
0.05955320 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:AGY-49.SG__AD_945__Cov_90.17%
0.05978572 Serbia_Medieval_Gomolava.TW:I1116.TW__AD_931__Cov_ 96.49%
0.05996136 Hungary_Visegrád_Medieval:AHPS82__AD_1050__Cov_69. 46%
0.06001951 NorthMacedonia_Medieval.AG:I2530.AG__AD_1035__Cov_ 60.02%
0.06019243 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG:IBE-206.SG__AD_950__Cov_66.13%
0.06030456 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA:FVD004__AD_450__Cov_65.34%
0.06034792 Poland_Niemcza_IA.SG:PCA0126.SG__AD_950__Cov_24.25 %
0.06063634 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_LateAvar:KBS05__AD_85 0__Cov_81.64%
0.06091056 Croatia_EarlyMedieval.TW:I35008.TW__AD_1125__Cov_9 5.91%
0.06108384 Poland_Niemcza_IA.SG:PCA0146.SG__AD_950__Cov_14.70 %
0.06126281 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_EarlyHungarian:KBS27_ _AD_1000__Cov_76.08%
0.06143603 Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner.SG:SH-81.SG__AD_975__Cov_54.48%
0.06235251 Hungary_Zalavár_LateAvar:AHS22__AD_875__Cov_67.67%
0.06275073 Serbia_EarlyMedieval_Slavic.AG:I15541.AG__AD_900__ Cov_37.42%
0.06281671 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:SP-2.SG__AD_980__Cov_53.17%
0.06283188 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA:FVD001__AD_450__Cov_59.80%
0.06306258 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:CSU-11.SG__AD_950__Cov_87.29%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0648
0.05371016 Polish:PCA0649
0.05543297 Hungary_SoutheasternTransdanubia_EarlyHungarian:AH PS190W__AD_950__Cov_52.48%
0.05879906 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA:FVD004__AD_450__Cov_65.34%
0.05940622 Ukraine_Lviv_WhiteCroat_Slavs_Medieval:UKR166__AD_ 1200__Cov_66.09%
0.05981958 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:K1-1.SG__AD_925__Cov_71.04%
0.06032978 Sweden_Stockholm_VA:gor161__AD_975__Cov_unknown
0.06063545 Ukraine_Medieval_Rus_Viking_o.SG:VK542.SG__AD_1050 __Cov_71.62%
0.06064732 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK53.SG__AD_975__Cov_53.70%
0.06124409 Russia_Viking.SG:VK19.SG__AD_1050__Cov_48.43%
0.06131348 Russia_Viking.SG:VK408.SG__AD_1050__Cov_17.99%
0.06164280 Serbia_Medieval_Gomolava.TW:I1116.TW__AD_931__Cov_ 96.49%
0.06207899 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA:FVD001__AD_450__Cov_59.80%
0.06257479 Polish:PCA0618
0.06307791 Sweden_Sigtuna_VA:nuf005__AD_965__Cov_unknown
0.06347307 Hungary_Avar.AG:RKF248.AG__AD_737__Cov_84.87%
0.06352994 Serbia_Roman.AG:I15520.AG__AD_254__Cov_47.76%
0.06355438 Ukraine_EIA_Scythian_o1.SG:MJ-13.SG__BC_545__Cov_21.10%
0.06372176 Hungary_Visegrád_Medieval:AHPS82__AD_1050__Cov_69. 46%
0.06379900 Czechia_LBA_Knoviz.AG:I16089.AG__BC_1050__Cov_70.0 8%
0.06425712 BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval.AG:I19561.AG__AD_1248__ Cov_43.65%
0.06449695 Poland_Niemcza_IA_contam.SG:PCA0143.SG__AD_873__Co v_31.99%
0.06460272 Poland_Kowalewko_Wielbark_IA.SG:PCA0065.SG__AD_200 __Cov_9.33%
0.06477380 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:CSU-11.SG__AD_950__Cov_87.29%
0.06486131 Poland_Markowice_IA_contam.SG:PCA0158.SG__AD_1100_ _Cov_26.84%
0.06505781 Poland_OstrowLednicki_IA.SG:PCA0339.SG__AD_1100__C ov_35.76%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0660
0.04554754 Ukraine_Lviv_WhiteCroat_Slavs_Medieval:UKR166__AD_ 1200__Cov_66.09%
0.04718394 Hungary_Avar.AG:KUP020.AG__AD_737__Cov_83.73%
0.05060746 Hungary_SoutheasternTransdanubia_EarlyHungarian:AH PS190W__AD_950__Cov_52.48%
0.05062953 Germany_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA006__AD_1242__Cov_58.5 2%
0.05132699 Slovakia_EBA_Nitrianska.AG:I13458.AG__AD_843__Cov_ 71.75%
0.05326234 Ukraine_Kharkiv_Scythian_LeftDnipro_LocAgr_2_EIA:U KR096__BC_290__Cov_64.95%
0.05365808 Polish:PCA0649
0.05379019 Hungary_Fonyód_EMA:FVD004__AD_450__Cov_65.34%
0.05429204 Ukraine_Medieval_Rus_Viking_o.SG:VK542.SG__AD_1050 __Cov_71.62%
0.05534003 Poland_Magdalenian_contam.AG:MAZ001.AG__BC_16435__ Cov_45.30%
0.05560235 Hungary_Árpád_Ladislaus_I:SZTL__AD_1040__Cov_99.94 %
0.05719050 Russia_Viking.SG:VK19.SG__AD_1050__Cov_48.43%
0.05726310 Russia_Gorokhovets_Medieval.AG:GOS001.AG__AD_1157_ _Cov_47.73%
0.05745914 Russia_Sunghir_Medieval.SG:Sunghir6.SG__AD_1137__C ov_99.10%
0.05786699 Hungary_Abasar_Aba_Medieval:HUAS85__AD_1100__Cov_7 4.76%
0.05792858 Hungary_EarlyAvar.SG:SZF-181.SG__AD_683__Cov_89.68%
0.05819550 Hungary_Conqueror_Elite.SG:K1-1.SG__AD_925__Cov_71.04%
0.05821496 Hungary_LittleHungarianPlain_LateAvar:KBS03__AD_85 0__Cov_79.44%
0.05866013 Hungary_Zalavár_LateAvar:AHS22__AD_875__Cov_67.67%
0.05870469 Russia_Shekshovo9_HighMedieval.AG:SHE007.AG__AD_11 25__Cov_18.25%
0.05874894 Hungary_Avar.AG:RKF248.AG__AD_737__Cov_84.87%
0.05896307 Croatia_EarlyMedieval.AG:I26748.AG__AD_838__Cov_74 .43%
0.05916532 Ukraine_EIA_Scythian_o1.SG:MJ-13.SG__BC_545__Cov_21.10%
0.05918136 Russia_Viking.SG:VK254.SG__AD_1000__Cov_43.63%
0.05924283 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK457.SG__AD_975__Cov_18.21%

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0252B
0.04291182 Croatia_Mursa_Roman.SG:R3657.SG__AD_282__Cov_44.65 %
0.04316159 Italy_Sicily_Himera_480BCE_NEurope.AG:I10949.AG__B C_480__Cov_49.60%
0.04477471 Hungary_IA_LaTene_o.AG:I18226.AG__BC_345__Cov_65.6 6%
0.04484416 Germany_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA001__AD_1138__Cov_54.9 7%
0.04500968 Poland_Rumin_IA.SG:PCA0244.SG__AD_1089__Cov_15.40%
0.04658117 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK395.SG__AD_1050__Cov_79.31%
0.04674615 Russia_Gorokhovets_Medieval.AG:GOS001.AG__AD_1157_ _Cov_47.73%
0.04753845 Estonia_IA.SG:s19_VII4_1.SG__BC_543__Cov_30.77%
0.04776602 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz700__BC_1312__Cov_61.82%
0.04796432 Sweden_Viking_o1.SG:vik_KAL006.SG__AD_1050__Cov_67 .34%
0.04812851 Ukraine_Mykolaiv_Antiquity_Greeks?_2_EIA:UKR153__B C_573__Cov_42.28%
0.04825152 Germany_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA003__AD_1141__Cov_72.2 2%
0.04840121 Serbia_Roman_AfricanPossible.TW:I32305.TW__AD_100_ _Cov_80.26%
0.04858235 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK457.SG__AD_975__Cov_18.21%
0.04870419 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz709__BC_1597__Cov_20.02%
0.04909889 Poland_Lad_IA.SG:PCA0185.SG__AD_1100__Cov_10.11%
0.04928066 Russia_IA_Ingria.SG:s19_VII15_1.SG__AD_39__Cov_22. 43%
0.04949599 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz655__BC_1402__Cov_21.19%
0.05011577 Russia_Viking_o.SG:VK18.SG__AD_1050__Cov_59.37%
0.05018890 Ukraine_Volyn_Lusatian_EIA:UKR168__BC_850__Cov_57. 47%
0.05072643 Sweden_Viking.SG:VK443.SG__AD_950__Cov_91.22%
0.05072745 Ukraine_Odesa_ThracianHallstatt_2_EIA:UKR000__BC_8 50__Cov_68.51%
0.05092038 Poland_Trzciniec_MBA:poz551_2__BC_1250__Cov_7.76%
0.05096583 Slovakia_EBA_Nitrianska.AG:I12991.AG__AD_817__Cov_ 64.57%
0.05147858 Sweden_Viking.SG:vik_urm160.SG__AD_1152__Cov_73.63 %

The most interesting one is Piast?:PCA0252B. It looks very local.

May I ask for the similarities/distances to the modern population averages in Europe for Piast samples?

But shouldn't it be possible with IBD to check if PIAST05 was either grandson or great-grandson of PIAST01?

In such case, it should be possible to establish if PIAST01 is Herman and Krzywousty. Why couldn't they do it?

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Originally Posted by michal3141

May I ask for the similarities/distances to the modern population averages in Europe for Piast samples?

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Such an average offers little insight, particularly when it comes to royal families with such far-reaching kinship ties.

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0573B
0.03751498 German
0.03837639 German_Erlangen
0.03925048 Dutch
0.04133484 Afrikaner
0.04140709 German_Hamburg
0.04146425 Welsh
0.04175945 Danish
0.04215201 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04229037 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04285806 BelgianB
0.04289311 Austrian
0.04309241 BelgianA
0.04375801 French_Brittany
0.04391798 Shetlandic
0.04448691 Norwegian
0.04493290 English
0.04500714 English_Cornwall
0.04514768 French_Nord
0.04531308 Scottish
0.04541324 French_Alsace
0.04565459 Orcadian
0.04569201 Czech
0.04671157 Hungarian
0.04703894 Irish
0.04717181 BelgianC

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0657
0.06045928 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.06046977 Moldovan
0.06066117 Slovenian
0.06133446 Croatian
0.06177410 Hungarian
0.06374413 Bosnian
0.06402872 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06434671 Moldovan_o
0.06632663 Serbian
0.06655107 Montenegrin
0.06729496 Czech
0.06778931 Polish_Silesian
0.06843335 Romanian
0.06854581 Austrian
0.06913518 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.06967035 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.07008768 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.07098840 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.07122824 Polish
0.07124120 Russian_Belgorod
0.07148981 Slovakian
0.07153249 Russian_Orel
0.07173630 German_Erlangen
0.07198410 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.07226210 Russian_Ryazan

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0648
0.06399780 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.06399827 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.06569540 Russian_Orel
0.06576871 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.06595785 Russian_Voronez
0.06650797 Russian_Ryazan
0.06723755 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.06753523 Moksha
0.06774382 Russian_Kursk
0.06780181 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.06795960 Finnish_Southwest
0.06818386 Moldovan_o
0.06876655 Russian_Smolensk
0.06883132 Russian_Kaluga
0.06955121 Polish
0.06962726 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.06991019 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.06992610 Hungarian
0.07015036 Slovenian
0.07034007 Mordovian
0.07038277 Czech
0.07073885 Belarusian
0.07087441 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.07110186 Russian_Kostroma
0.07157027 German_East

Distance to: Piast?:PCA0660
0.04910109 Moksha
0.05077901 Mordovian
0.05155693 Erzya
0.05222405 Russian_Orel
0.05303497 Russian_Ryazan
0.05509696 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.05572160 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.05595423 Russian_Kursk
0.05607063 Russian_Tver
0.05619799 Moldovan_o
0.05671730 Russian_Kostroma
0.05725130 Russian_Belgorod
0.05793653 Russian_Kaluga
0.05816822 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.05827973 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.05869847 Russian_Voronez
0.05913834 Russian_Smolensk
0.05938340 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.05992393 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.06029313 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.06082499 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.06129463 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.06266805 Polish
0.06268258 Belarusian
0.06378179 Russian_Yaroslavl