Native Irish versus Brits and Continentals G25 Just For Fun Calculator

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Native_Irish,0.129189,0.135065,0.0573225,0.044251,0.043547,0.0145025,0.0029375,0.0050765,0.0061355,-0.003918,-0.004141,0.007793,-0.0132305,-0.013212,0.0198155,0.004972,-0.01356,0.001774,0.0015715,0.002751,0.004118,0.0045755,0.001972,0.0153035,0.0001795
Viking_Proxy,0.130897,0.129988,0.06675,0.053618,0.040007,0.019522,0.00893,0.011307,0.005318,-0.005832,-0.006008,0.003747,-0.008474,-0.013212,0.02158,0.008618,-0.008605,0.003167,0.005154,0.004502,0.008485,0.003462,-0.00037,0.013496,0.002155
French_Norman_Proxy,0.126344,0.137096,0.053551,0.038114,0.040315,0.01255,0.00188,0.004615,0.005113,0.002551,-0.004384,0.004946,-0.01219, -0.011009, 0.013572, 0.006364, -0.005346, 0.00114, 0.002639, -0.000125, 0.003244, 0.001731, -0.001356, 0.008435, 0.000838
Roman_Era_Proxy,0.120652,0.146236,0.030547,-0.009367,0.037237,-0.008925,-0.001645,0.001846,0.016362,0.026788,0.000812,0.006594,-0.014123,-0.003165,-0.012351,-0.001458,0.006389,0.00076,0.004651,-0.004877,-0.00287,0.003462,-0.002958,-0.001807,-0.000718
Scottish_Lowland,0.129202,0.133288,0.061416,0.051413,0.040186,0.019565,0.003921,0.006507,0.004123,0.000109,-0.004812,0.005515,-0.012586,-0.013589,0.019747,0.006934,-0.009476,0.00223,0.003293,0.00164,0.005241,0.003227,0.000308,0.014267,0.000479
English_North,0.129758,0.133034,0.063168,0.052003,0.038161,0.020359,0.003525,0.007615,0.004909,-0.000547,-0.006171,0.006294,-0.012933,-0.013762,0.023344,0.007558,-0.011604,0.001901,0.00352,0.003001,0.006364,0.003833,-0.000616,0.015062,0.001197
English_South,0.126344,0.13405,0.056191,0.041021,0.037237,0.016176,0.003525,0.005307,0.004704,0.003827,-0.004709,0.005845,-0.010109,-0.010459,0.016965,0.006497,-0.00678,0.002787,0.003394,0.002126,0.004243,0.00235,0.000616,0.011809,0.000958
Cornish,0.12862,0.137096,0.054305,0.040698,0.041238,0.01255,0.00141,0.004846,0.008385,0.004738,-0.005196,0.006294,-0.013677,-0.012386,0.016829,0.006629,-0.010561,0.001267,0.002891,0.0005,0.005241,0.001607,0.000123,0.011206,0.001916
Norway_Viking,0.130896,0.126941,0.071276,0.061047,0.041546,0.024263,0.00987,0.010153,0.003886,-0.006925,-0.005196,0.003597,-0.008474,-0.010321,0.021037,0.011933,-0.004433,0.003041,0.004525,0.005127,0.008235,0.00408,0.001972,0.014219,0.001557
Denmark_Viking,0.129758,0.127957,0.069767,0.05814,0.040931,0.022311,0.0094,0.008769,0.003681,-0.008565,-0.006008,0.005395,-0.009068,-0.010184,0.022394,0.010209,-0.008214,0.003041,0.004022,0.006128,0.008235,0.003833,0.002835,0.012532,0.000479
Anglo-Saxon,0.129758,0.129988,0.064111,0.052649,0.041546,0.019522,0.00705,0.008538,0.003681,-0.004556,-0.005196,0.005395,-0.011298,-0.011698,0.020358,0.007955,-0.010431,0.002534,0.004274,0.003752,0.006489,0.003339,-0.000493,0.013978,0.001676

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Like most G25 calculators it overestimates Germanic ancestry in Irish people such as myself, but I was bored so I made it anyway:

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01814506 Scottish_Lowland
0.01826495 English_North
0.01937552 Native_Irish
0.02020081 Anglo-Saxon
0.02267519 English_South
0.02309991 Viking_Proxy
0.02409552 Cornish
0.02643504 Denmark_Viking
0.02833488 French_Norman_Proxy
0.02988754 Norway_Viking
0.09263039 Roman_Era_Proxy

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7147% / 0.01714718
59.2 English_North
34.8 Native_Irish
4.2 Denmark_Viking
1.8 Roman_Era_Proxy

with this slavic sample

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Slavic,0.128500,0.125765,0.070740,0.060180,0.036282,0.022722,0.008770,0.014586,-0.002422,-0.021216,-0.000838,-0.009962,0.015828,0.020520,-0.012765,0.000649,0.005016,-0.001420,-0.000139,0.004417,-0.002627,-0.005141,0.008588,-0.004414,-0.001595

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Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.6701% / 0.02670089
73.2 Slavic
15.0 Norway_Viking
11.8 Roman_Era_Proxy

Distance to: me_scaled
0.03277884 Slavic
0.05745997 Norway_Viking
0.05947499 Denmark_Viking
0.06094144 Viking_Proxy
0.06125973 English_South
0.06150269 Anglo-Saxon
0.06157809 French_Norman_Proxy
0.06331233 Scottish_Lowland
0.06640771 Cornish
0.06656072 English_North
0.06707487 Native_Irish
0.10091000 Roman_Era_Proxy

It's not working for me. What is used for the Native_Irish? Calculators have problems differentiating Irish from English unlike commercial dna tests that use technology that looks at long strands of dna that are inherited from your recent ancestry. It is why they aren't so good with trace results but are good at getting correct someone's majority ancestry.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8714% / 0.01871447
90.2 English_North
8.8 Viking_Proxy
1.0 Denmark_Viking

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

It's not working for me. What is used for the Native_Irish? Calculators have problems differentiating Irish from English unlike commercial dna tests that use technology that looks at long strands of dna that are inherited from your recent ancestry. It is why they aren't so good with trace results but are good at getting correct someone's majority ancestry.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8714% / 0.01871447
90.2 English_North
8.8 Viking_Proxy
1.0 Denmark_Viking

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It didn't work that well for me either. It is just further evidence that G25 is not great at distinguishing between Insular Celts and Germanics.

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Originally Posted by Fistora

with this slavic sample

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Slavic,0.128500,0.125765,0.070740,0.060180,0.036282,0.022722,0.008770,0.014586,-0.002422,-0.021216,-0.000838,-0.009962,0.015828,0.020520,-0.012765,0.000649,0.005016,-0.001420,-0.000139,0.004417,-0.002627,-0.005141,0.008588,-0.004414,-0.001595

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Target: me_scaled
Distance: 2.6701% / 0.02670089
73.2 Slavic
15.0 Norway_Viking
11.8 Roman_Era_Proxy

Distance to: me_scaled
0.03277884 Slavic
0.05745997 Norway_Viking
0.05947499 Denmark_Viking
0.06094144 Viking_Proxy
0.06125973 English_South
0.06150269 Anglo-Saxon
0.06157809 French_Norman_Proxy
0.06331233 Scottish_Lowland
0.06640771 Cornish
0.06656072 English_North
0.06707487 Native_Irish
0.10091000 Roman_Era_Proxy

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Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01814506 Scottish_Lowland
0.01826495 English_North
0.01937552 Native_Irish
0.02020081 Anglo-Saxon
0.02267519 English_South
0.02309991 Viking_Proxy
0.02409552 Cornish
0.02643504 Denmark_Viking
0.02833488 French_Norman_Proxy
0.02988754 Norway_Viking
0.07105978 Slavic
0.09263039 Roman_Era_Proxy

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6723% / 0.01672269
57.4 English_North
36.4 Native_Irish
5.4 Slavic
0.8 Roman_Era_Proxy

Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 2.8860% / 0.02886021
83.8 Native_Irish
9.6 Roman_Era_Proxy
6.6 Slavic



Distance to: Dorquest_scaled
0.03042391 Native_Irish
0.03136023 Cornish
0.03267887 French_Norman_Proxy
0.03280470 English_South
0.03521208 Scottish_Lowland
0.03651290 English_North
0.03771193 Anglo-Saxon
0.04018589 Viking_Proxy
0.04442256 Denmark_Viking
0.04843739 Norway_Viking
0.07531145 Slavic
0.08354126 Roman_Era_Proxy

Distance to: Figaro
0.03087842 English_South
0.03261966 French_Norman_Proxy
0.03639255 Anglo-Saxon
0.03649013 Cornish
0.03694455 Scottish_Lowland
0.03764160 Native_Irish
0.03808847 Viking_Proxy
0.03929334 English_North
0.04004374 Denmark_Viking
0.04196399 Norway_Viking
0.08206326 Roman_Era_Proxy

Target: Figaro
Distance: 2.7731% / 0.02773150
52.4 Denmark_Viking
27.6 Roman_Era_Proxy
20.0 Norway_Viking

With Fistora's Slavic sample-

Target: Figaro
Distance: 1.8571% / 0.01857063
53.2 English_South
35.2 Slavic
9.4 Roman_Era_Proxy
2.2 Denmark_Viking

Target: tk'es_scaled
Distance: 3.5312% / 0.03531239
85.2 NorthCaucasus
14.8 Native_Irish



Target: tk'es_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 3.4335% / 0.03433458
86.8 NorthCaucasus
13.2 English_North

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 2.0020% / 0.02001957
33.0 English_South
27.0 Anglo-Saxon
15.8 Cornish
15.8 Scottish_Lowland
8.4 Roman_Era_Proxy

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Distance to:        Rædwald
0.02047367        English_South
0.02149617        Cornish
0.02219995        French_Norman_Proxy
0.02401917        Native_Irish
0.02438139        Scottish_Lowland
0.02688050        English_North
0.02749769        Anglo-Saxon
0.03149813        Viking_Proxy
0.03538409        Denmark_Viking
0.03811776        Norway_Viking
0.08119936        Roman_Era_Proxy

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Distance: 1.8289% / 0.01828905
35.2 French_Norman_Proxy
31.4 Cornish
27.2 Norway_Viking
6.2 Roman_Era_Proxy