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What do you think about this?
OMG! I can't believe I can be the first to say this....
Aryans are aR1ans.
http://imgur.com/DdfUY.jpg
What's to think about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Curious One
You're asking a question. Perhaps you'd like to start with Google? :thumb001:
Aryan? :icon_yawn:
But if I was to answer, it'd naturally be E1b1, the haplogroup of the Mesopotamian farmers! :naughty:
Which happy groups have hairy ends, you ask? :horn:
The Mesopotamians carried J2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippaforalkus
Pay for my DNA test and I'll tell you
So what's the question of "which haplogroups are Aryan"? Sounds like an incredibly stupid, backasswards question if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curious One
Will you define Aryan for me?:)Quote:
Which Haplogroups Are Aryan?
Fuck off.
All. Except yours;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Curious One
From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_migrationQuote:
The studies published in this active field of ongoing research have yet to present a unanimous picture.
On the one hand, certain reports emphasize the finding that tribal and caste populations in South Asia derive largely from a common genetic heritage of Pleistocene southern and western Asians, with only limited gene flow from external regions since the start of the Holocene.[39][40][41] India-specific mtDNA haplogroups, in particular, show coalescence times of 40-60 kya,[42] while J2 from West Asia is identified as the only non-native Y-DNA haplogroup present in significant proportions.[43] The Y-DNA Haplogroup R1a1a (M17), which was thought to be a marker of Indo-European speaking peoples,[44] has been found quite prevalent in South Asia, including tribal groups, suggesting a native origin with a time depth greater than any supposed Indo-Aryan migration.[45]
On the other hand, certain reports stratify the population, finding relatively closer affinity to Western Eurasians than to Asians among upper castes compared to lower and in men compared to women.[46] Evidence has also been found that the deep ancestry of the entire Indian population is a hybrid of two distinct founder groups, one genetically closer to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans, and the other closer to East and Southeast Asians; whose relative proportions vary with the former type more prevalent in high-caste and Indo-Aryan speaking groups.[47]
Language change resulting from the migration of numerically small superstrate groups would be difficult to trace genetically. Historically attested events, such as invasions by Huns, Greeks, Kushans, Moghuls, Muslims, and modern Europeans, have had negligible genetic impact. Despite centuries of Greek rule in Northwest India, for example, no trace of either the M170 or the M35 genetic markers associated with Greeks and Macedonians have been found.
Does that help?
Indo europeanQuote:
Originally Posted by Eburos
You have to have mtDNA N1a and Y-DNA R1a1a to be Aryan.
My mtDNA is N1a wich was carried by the Scythians, but I'm just a Bar1barian and not an Ar1an
The term "Aryan" is linguisticallty and probably culturally meaningful. Whether it is genetically meaningful is debatable.
Then romans was mesopotamians? :0
They also was G2a.... :'(
Bar1barians are not my tr1be :(
Do you mean which haplogroups were part of the original Indo-Iranian or Indo-European groups?
None
L2* you niggas are phonies
Yeah, if you're a Gypsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archon Progon
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DanielJ1eH
Hahahah balkanids vote j2 and e3b:dance::whoo::rofl_002::rofl::icon1200::rotfl:: thumbs
Voted R1a, and G2a of course.
I think R1b
R1b.
and G2a:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzilla
LoL J2 and E3b Aryan :picard1:Quote:
Originally Posted by celtiberian pride
Its only R1b (Ultimate Superiority) and our cousins R1a. True IndoEuropean invaders who subdued and subjuaged all those inferior continental Haplogroups.
Really it should be which haplotypes are PIE/'Aryan'.
IE dispersal = late Calcolithic and early Bronze age cultural Horizons. So essentially:
-R1a1a or M17 and those derived = definitely
-R1b-m269 and those derived = strong possibility at this point
Highly doubtful: G2a, essentially corresponds with the early Neolithic and so does E1b1b.
Not sure: J2. Apparently on some anthroboards, many felt it had to do with the Tripolye culture.
Y-DNA I2 types in Europe appear to be Mesolithic leftovers. I1 types have surfaced in the Neolithic.
R1a and R1b are true Indo Europeans, Slavs,Germanics, very core of the Indo European population. Rest are noobs, specially disgusting haplogroup marked J2.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMalus
R1b is the hapolougrouup of superior people.
I've read that R1b is the neolithic migrants from Anatolia, R1a the IE (Aryan) invaders. So, I voted R1a
Essentially because the parent clade is so frequent in Anatolia. For R1b, this may or may not be its ultimate geographic origins. Things can change drastically overtime, people move around etc. However oldest R1b in Europe is from Bell Beaker culture which is a rather late Calcolithic cultural horizon with similarities to Yamna and Corded Ware cultural horizons. Cultural horizons like those don't really emanate from Anatolia so it certainly presents a lot of questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lala4
R1b is higher in "Celtic" Western Euros, than in Germanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringelnatter
Depends which subclade !Quote:
Originally Posted by Bounder
E1b :lol:
Haplogroup A1b1
LOL...
I1 YDNA and K2 mt DNA. Me. :lol:
it is in the steppe peoples 12 markers R1b 12 13 25 16 11 11-14 12 12 11 12 15 28 , and this is R1a 12 13 25 16 11 11-14 12 12 11 12 13 28
and the theory of the Aryan invasion which the insanity