Dodecad Ancestry Project

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...MIXTURE10.jpeg

I'm DOD197
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UOHFTxL-bO...2B197-207.jpeg

We're all asians. Oh the horror.

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Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

We're all asians. Oh the horror.

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Now how did you come to this conclusion?

I was just joking with the blue bars :)

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Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

I was just joking with the blue bars :)

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The blue bar is Caucasian, since it peaks in Georgians

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UOHFTxL-bO...MIXTURE15.jpeg

I wonder if the Romanians tested included Roma Gypsies?

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Originally Posted by Peasant

I wonder if the Romanians tested included Roma Gypsies?

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Yes. Two gypsyes were included.

You can see them clearly compared to the other Romanians :
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT.../Romanians.jpg

Basque/Dagestan/Siberian components in Europe

Scandinavians
Sample Size: 9

Basque : 15.6
Dagestan : 10.2
Sardinian : 15.4
Siberian : 1.1
East Asian : 0.3
West Asian : 0.5
North European : 56.9


Lithuanians
Sample Size: 10

Basque : 5.9
Dagestan : 2.9
Sardinian : 6.2
Siberian : 0.1
East Asian : 0.7
West Asian : 3.3
North European : 80.9

Would be interesting to have Saami and see how much Basque they have...

Spaniards
Sample Size: 12

Basque : 30.7
Dagestan : 4.4
Sardinian : 32.4
Siberian : 0.6
East Asian : 0.1
West Asian : 10.0
North European : 21.8

North Italians

Basque : 17.7
Dagestan : 4.5
Sardinian : 37.3
Siberian : 0.0
East Asian : 0.2
West Asian : 19.3
North European : 21.0

I wonder were the other Scandinavians are from?
It all seem a bit odd to me, the low North European score and high Dagestan score.





Is there somewhere were we can see the individual participants admixture values from the latest one wich includes Dagestan?

Article about the Dodecad Ancestry Project and the Eurogenes ancestry project from Nature news
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1012...l/468880a.html

I notice that I forgot to post my admixture numbers in this thread

West Asian 9.2
Northwest African 0
South European 17.1
Northeast Asian 0
Southwest Asian 0
East Asian 0
North European 73.7
West African 0
East African 0
South Asian 0

My parents results:

Father
North European 78.2%
South European 9.8%
Northeast Asian 7.9%
West Asian 4.1%
Northwest African 0%
Southwest Asian 0%
East Asian 0%
West African 0%
East African 0%
South Asian 0%

Mother
North European 79.7%
Northeast Asian 6.6%
West Asian 6.4%
South European 5%
East Asian 2.2%
Northwest African 0%
Southwest Asian 0%
West African 0%
East African 0%
South Asian 0%

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/01/...h-dodecad.html
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7352/admixture10.png

Scandinavian
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3...inaviand10.png(I believe I'm nr. 3)

British
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9260/britishd10.png

Finnish
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5504/finnishd10.png

German
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/814/germand10.png

Irish
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/492/irishd10.png

Greek
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6879/greekd10.png

Russian
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8900/russiand10.png

South Italian and Sicilian
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3...iciliand10.png

North Italian
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8452/nitaliand10.png

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/01/...h-dodecad.html
British
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9260/britishd10.png

Irish
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/492/irishd10.png

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Is there any ancestry information regarding sample 2 from the Brisith population?
He/She not only has N.W & East African components, but also has the joint lowest/lowest south European component and the highest west Asian component by a relative margin. This does not chime with the rest of the British samples nor surrounding samples.
Also, is there any information regarding sample number 6 in the Irish population for He/She has a comparatively high South Asian component, when compared to Irish and British Samples etc.?
Does this individual have Romany ancestry?

You have to take anything Dienekes writes with a grain of salt, or the whole shaker...

http://medicineworld.org/images/blog...aker-10821.jpg

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by hereward

Is there any ancestry information regarding sample 2 from the Brisith population?
He/She not only has N.W & East African components, but also has the joint lowest/lowest south European component and the highest west Asian component by a relative margin. This does not chime with the rest of the British samples nor surrounding samples.
Also, is there any information regarding sample number 6 in the Irish population for He/She has a comparatively high South Asian component, when compared to Irish and British Samples etc.?
Does this individual have Romany ancestry?

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No, they are all natives. But these levels have nothing to do with recent admixture, take in acocunt if they were mixed they woulnd't look so similar to the other Brits, they woulnd't have as much north-european etc. And the sample is too small to say they are outliers..Also, small levels of south-asian are not rare, some french or scandinavians have it also.

What needs to be truly taken with a grain of salt is the german brand of "nordic power":p;)

Either way, here is the admixture of some sample populations:

Lithuanians
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9...huanians10.png

French
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6669/french10.png

French Basque
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/5...chbasque10.png

Cypriots
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6144/cypriots10.png

Sardinians
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3615/sardinian10.png

North Italians
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2...hitalian10.png

Belorussians
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4...orussian10.png

Spaniards
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1599/spaniards10.png

Is there a Berber sample to compare with the Sardinian sample?

(You know, to shut up mouthy e-arseholes from Provence... ;))

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Originally Posted by Osweo

Is there a Berber sample to compare with the Sardinian sample?

(You know, to shut up mouthy e-arseholes from Provence... ;))

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Here is a Berber sample.


Mozabite:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3681/mozabite10.png

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Originally Posted by Osweo

Is there a Berber sample to compare with the Sardinian sample?

(You know, to shut up mouthy e-arseholes from Provence... ;))

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Berbers can vary a lot, right? I'd love to see how europoid-looking berbers "score" on these, notably the Riffians. I suppose they are closer to the original north african peoples than, say, the more negroid looking north africans.

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

Here is a Berber sample.
Mozabite:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3681/mozabite10.png

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Ah sorry, yes, I just noticed the Mozabite on the first post. I mixed it up with Biblical Moabite, but now I see that it's northern inland Algerians;

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The Mozabite people are a Berber ethnic group living in M'zab in the northern Sahara. They speak Tumzabt. Most of them are Ibadi Muslims. Nearly all of them read and write Arabic, though they use the Zenata dialect of the Berber language, for which they have no surviving written form.

Mozabites live in five oases, namely, Ghardaia, Beni-Isguen, El-Ateuf, Melika and Bounoura and two other isolated oases farther north, Berriane and Guerrara.

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:thumb001:

nr. 20 and 26 seem to have very recent negroid admixture too.


There are two indviduals with obvious gypsy ancestry in the Romanian sample:
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8545/romanians10.png

A couple of more samples


White Utahns
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9693/whiteutahns10.png

Tuscan
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2470/tuscans10.png

Chuvash
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9859/chuvashs10.png

Turks
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4569/turks10.png

Georgians
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2152/georgians10.png

Egyptians
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5619/egyptans10.png

Pathan
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7686/pathan10.png

Burusho
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9930/burusho10.png

Uyghur
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8875/uygur10.png

Chinese
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7950/chinese10.png

Curiosity compelled me to ask
With regards to the British sample; I had noticed levels of S.W Asian, East Asian etc, across various Euro Samples, it does not seem strange. What is strange is the lack of N.W African in conjunction with East African in samples which are population wise similar to the British. If these components (especially when combined as with this individual) are ancient within the population, then I will expect to see this particular component breakdown frequently repeated in future sampling. Maybe this could be down to the make up of a particular area of Britain, though I cannot help but doubt this view, owing to the massive internal migration of people within Britain since the Industrial Revolution. I suppose my curiosity will not be abated until I have witnessed more samples.
I mentioned the Irish sample for two reasons. Though the individual’s S.Asian component is relatively low, when it is compared to the other Irish participants, it visually seems to be higher by more than a few multiples. My second reason comes from experience; in the British Y-Dna project, there is an individual who is H1a positive, owing to my small knowledge I also found this curious. In that particular case I was right to be, as the individual turned out to be a Self reported Gypsy, who is running is own project with regard to the spread of that Haplogroup amongst the Gypsy population of Europe.
As the Gypsy population in the British Isles is HIGHLY admixed already, an individual of ‘part Gypsy ancestry’ would not need to have a large S. Asian component, the like of which is evidenced in the more homogenous ‘Romanian Gypsy population’.
Again, I had to ask because I am curious; such a disposition, whether warranted or not, helps one to learn, especially when one turns out to be wrong. :shrug:

Saudis
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6615/saudis10.png

Adygei
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/756/adygei10.png

Lezgin
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/699/lezgins10.png

Ashkenazi Jews
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8...nazyjews10.png

Sephardic Jews
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1...rdicjews10.png

Jordanians
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/857/jordanians10.png

Sindhi
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/393/sindhi10.png

Yakut
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8499/yakut10.png

Ethiopians
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5...hiopians10.png

Yoruba
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9701/yoruba10.png

In percentages :

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...thkey=CPGxtqQM

Wow, the Chuvash, Chinese and Yoruba samples are interesting, the latter two appear to be very "pure" and lacking many mixes and the Chuvash appear to have a large North Asian input - Mongols or Ugrians?

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Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

Berbers can vary a lot, right? I'd love to see how europoid-looking berbers "score" on these, notably the Riffians. I suppose they are closer to the original north african peoples than, say, the more negroid looking north africans.

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Yes Berbers varery a lot. The Riffians and Kabyles would score probably similar to the Mozabite but their Southern European component will be much higher, due to the history of the region with minor SSA lineages probably. However you probably also find that the majority of them having 100% NorthWest African component, like many of the Mozabites. The Mozabites also look Europid but not European, unlike some of the Riffians and Kabyles who at times look European Europids, though they are exaggerated most often. Probably due to assimilation of Muslim Moriscos.

Do you have Polish sample ?

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Originally Posted by celtabria

the Chuvash appear to have a large North Asian input - Mongols or Ugrians?

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Chuvash are Turkic speakers. They descend from the core population of the Volga-Bulgar Kingdom, with some assimilated Finnic locals. The North Asian will mostly be from the Huns and Turks, and perhaps a few Sarmatians.

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Originally Posted by Osweo

Chuvash are Turkic speakers. They descend from the core population of the Volga-Bulgar Kingdom, with some assimilated Finnic locals. The North Asian will mostly be from the Huns and Turks, and perhaps a few Sarmatians.

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Yeah, I thought something was wrong since I was thinking they were meant to be European converts to Islam, then I remembered that's the Chechens :rolleyes: (Yeah, a silly mistake that :p)

Are there samples from Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Austrians and Swiss already?

Southern Slavs?

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Originally Posted by Agrippa

Are there samples from Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Austrians and Swiss already?

Southern Slavs?

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Yes, there are hungarians here, though the clustering names are a lil bit different:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...IAN_ALL_10.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...OPLE_EADC9.png

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Originally Posted by Iberia

Yes, there are hungarians here, though the clustering names are a lil bit different:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...IAN_ALL_10.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...OPLE_EADC9.png

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Thanks, I knew the first, not the second. I'm particularly curious about a sample compared the same way as those above and with individualised results :)

DD420

West Asian: 9.8
NW African: 0
South European: 29.1
NE Asian: 0
SW Asian: 0
East Asian: 0
Northern European: 60.3
West African: 0
East African: 0
South Asian: 0.8

No pictures as of yet.

I'm not sure if I'm eligible for this:

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Open-ended submission opportunity for 23andMe data (#2)
Who is eligible

Everyone who is of European, Asian, or North African ancestry and all four of his/her grandparents are from the same European, Asian, or North African ethnic group or the same European, Asian, or North African country.

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All four my grandparents are from one ethnic group, Afrikaners - but does that just count as colonial as in American, Canadian or Australian? I guess so.

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Originally Posted by Loki

I'm not sure if I'm eligible for this:



All four my grandparents are from one ethnic group, Afrikaners - but does that just count as colonial as in American, Canadian or Australian? I guess so.

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Where is it the Afrikaners come from? I'd say the name is not as important as the ultimate population you spring from.

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Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer

DD420

West Asian: 9.8
NW African: 0
South European: 29.1
NE Asian: 0
SW Asian: 0
East Asian: 0
Northern European: 60.3
West African: 0
East African: 0
South Asian: 0.8

No pictures as of yet.

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West Asian:8.7
NW African: 0
South European:27.1
NE Asian: 0
SW Asian: 0
East Asian: 0
Northern European: 63.5
West African: 0
East African: 0
South Asian: 0.7

You're close to mine, so it must be average. Haven't seen much to compare.