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Druze: Main phenotypes and what ethnicities can they pass for.
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Generally, phenotypes are typically blend of Armenoid, East Med, and CM types, with some Asiatic Alpine here and there. Rate of light eyes seems pretty high from these photos (bit higher than what I have seen from other sources). In terms of passing, transitional between Levantines and other W. Asians (assuming you want to call Levantines W. Asians). As a group, don't really pass in Europe that well. Also look similar to Ashkenazi Jews and lighter Mizrahi Jews to some extent.
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East-med maybe, as a group they look very distinct but looking individuals one by one i can see some passing here, except the very semitic/jewish looking types.
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How do you find these pictures?
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I was about to say Assyrian, but they seem a bit exotic looking for that (we don't typically have green-eyed, bronze skinned combo among Assyrians).
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Interesting because Lebanese Druze are the most Western shifted Levantines right? Phenotypically pretty distinct from Cypriots however.
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Originally Posted by
kleenex
Interesting because Lebanese Druze are the most Western shifted Levantines right? Phenotypically pretty distinct from Cypriots however.
No, Lebanese Muslims are because of minor degrees of Norman ancestry.
But Druze to me LOOK the most western.
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They hardly pass in Europe, the majority that do pass in Malta, Sicily, and as Ashkenazi Jews - possibly Southern Italians as well. The amount that pass in Greece, Albania, Portugal, etc. isn't even worth mentioning or voting for.
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Kouros
They hardly pass in Europe, the majority that do pass in Malta, Sicily, and as Ashkenazi Jews - possibly Southern Italians as well. The amount that pass in Greece, Albania, Portugal, etc. isn't even worth mentioning or voting for.
Do they pass as North African? if so, which? What about South Asia -- exotic enough to pass there or no?
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Sikeliot
Do they pass as North African? if so, which? What about South Asia -- exotic enough to pass there or no?
In general they're too white to pass in north Africa or South Asia. There are maybe a couple that are negroid influenced enough to pass in Maghreb but none pass in India or Pakistan.
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Sikeliot
No, Lebanese Muslims are because of minor degrees of Norman ancestry.
But Druze to me LOOK the most western.
I don't think there's a noticeable difference between them and other Levantines in looks. Everyone I've talked to said druze looks like other Levantines.
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Kouros
In general they're too white to pass in north Africa or South Asia. There are maybe a couple that are negroid influenced enough to pass in Maghreb but none pass in India or Pakistan.
There are plenty that would pass in Pakistan. Maybe not as Punjabi, but as Pashtun, Kashmiri, etc. I think a few pass in India, too.
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Kouros
They hardly pass in Europe, the majority that do pass in Malta, Sicily, and as Ashkenazi Jews - possibly Southern Italians as well. The amount that pass in Greece, Albania, Portugal, etc. isn't even worth mentioning or voting for.
This. Westerners obsess over random ethnicities located in the Muslim world (Druze, Kalash, Yazidis, etc), and white wash the crap out of them. The aforementioned groups are pretty light, but it is not like they're Scandinavians stuck in the middle east like the way people make them sound. They look mostly similar to their neighbors.
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Myanthropologies
This. Westerners obsess over random ethnicities located in the Muslim world (Druze, Kalash, Yazidis, etc), and white wash the crap out of them. The aforementioned groups are pretty light, but it is not like they're Scandinavians stuck in the middle east like the way people make them sound. They look mostly similar to their neighbors.
I guess they're that obsessed about race, huh? Geez, it's a pain in the ass.
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Sikeliot
No, Lebanese Muslims are because of minor degrees of Norman ancestry.
But Druze to me LOOK the most western.
I think they look Western due to genetic isolation. Genetic isolation causes recessive genes to show up.
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Blue Moon
They look Kurdish to me.
Some of them do have Kurdish origins, like the Jumblatt family.
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Blue Moon
They look Kurdish to me.
quite a few would pass but some also look foreign to me . you can compare them with the people I have in my signature link and you might see it. but among other options I also voted for kurdish
imo as a group they fit best as levantine (what they are) , assyrian , coastal north african such as tunisia , jewish
btw. fun fact : on some calculators I come out as 50% Druze
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Hadouken
quite a few would pass but some also look foreign to me . you can compare them with the people I have in my signature link and you might see it. but among other options I also voted for kurdish
imo as a group they fit best as levantine (what they are) , assyrian , coastal north african such as tunisia , jewish
btw. fun fact : on some calculators I come out as 50% Druze
You are right some of them look Arabian or Europeans. But, I would say generally Kurdish.
I see some Druze and Kurdish mixtures in some calcs as well.
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Blue Moon
You are right some of them look Arabian or Europeans. But, I would say generally Kurdish.
I see some Druze and Kurdish mixtures in some calcs as well.
I dont see much arabian in them . and those who seem to have such a look shift more towards Egypt than Gulf in my fucking opinion . and we have no less "european" looking individuals than them in my hole fucking opinion . but I noticed that druze have a somewhat high percentage of light eyes . they wuz scythian n shiet
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Hadouken
I dont see much arabian in them . and those who seem to have such a look shift more towards Egypt than Gulf in my fucking opinion . and we have no less "european" looking individuals than them in my hole fucking opinion . but I noticed that druze have a somewhat high percentage of light eyes . they wuz scythian n shiet
I think the high percentage of light eyes is due to genetic isolation.
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Meerkat
I think the high percentage of light eyes is due to genetic isolation.
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Many look European Jews (the males with the light eyes reminds me many Moroccan Jews) while other look more Middle Easterns.
I guess the lighter ones would pass in Europe (although not as 100% typical) while ithers just look Arabs/Caucasus.
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Hadouken
btw. fun fact : on some calculators I come out as 50% Druze
And 25% Myanthropologies....I am your grandfather.
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Myanthropologies
And 25% Myanthropologies....I am your grandfather.
:D
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McCree900
I guess they're that obsessed about race, huh? Geez, it's a pain in the ass.
Westerners tend to do this with groups like Druze, Kalash, etc, because it is just easier to do so. They are very isolated populations and don't live in the west, so nobody sees them irl.
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Mosty Maltese and Iranian.
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Like Levantines in general, they range from Southern Euro-looking to Pakistani/NW Indian-looking, with most having a distinct Near Eastern-Semitic look of their own.
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Just lol @ this poll... OH MY GODDD... THEY HAVE LIGHT EYES...! THEY PASS IN EUROPE... ANOTHER LOST EUROPEAN TRIBE IN ASIA... :lol00001:
Reconstructing Druze population history
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The biogeographical analysis localised many of the Druze to the Zagros Mountains and the mountains surrounding Lake Van and postulated that their migration path ran along a trajectory from southeast Turkey to southeast Syria.
Genetically Druzes belong to the Northern Iraq + Western Iran + Eastern Turkey category. They have nothing to do with Europeans.
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Honestly, they wouldn't pass outside the levant apart from countries like Malta, Southern Italy and Cyprus though few of them can pass in certain southern European countries.
