Genetic distances for Trapani, Peloponnese, Portuguese, and Kent (SE England)

This only includes Europeans, no MENAs.

https://image.ibb.co/eu7qbv/genetic_distances.png

Trapani, West Sicily:
Syracuse: 0.004
South Italy: 0.006
Abruzzo: 0.008
Greek Peloponnese: 0.014
Tuscany: 0.014
Albania: 0.018
Kosovo: 0.020
Bulgaria: 0.023
Greek Macedonia: 0.023
Gagauz: 0.024
North Italy: 0.028
Macedonia: 0.029
Portugal: 0.029
Romania: 0.030
Spain: 0.031
Montenegro: 0.032
Serbia: 0.034
Croatia: 0.042
Bosnia: 0.043
France: 0.043
Austria: 0.044
Hungary: 0.044
Germany: 0.045
Dutch: 0.046
Slovenia: 0.046
Cornwall: 0.046
Kent: 0.046
Czech: 0.047
Scotland: 0.048
Ireland: 0.050
Orkney: 0.051
Slovakia: 0.053
Norway: 0.055
Sweden: 0.057
West Ukraine: 0.057
Poland: 0.063
Tatar: 0.064
North Ukraine: 0.064
East Ukraine: 0.065
Belarus: 0.066
Russia: 0.069
Central Russia: 0.070
Lithuania: 0.075
Mordovian: 0.076
Estonia: 0.077
Ingrian: 0.078
West Russia: 0.078
Finland: 0.079
Latvia: 0.082
Vepsian: 0.082
Karelia: 0.083
North Russia: 0.086

Kent (SE England):
Cornwall: 0.003
Dutch: 0.005
Ireland: 0.006
Scotland: 0.006
France: 0.007
Orkney: 0.007
Germany: 0.010
Austria: 0.011
Norway: 0.014
Czech: 0.018
Hungary: 0.018
Sweden: 0.018
Slovenia: 0.019
North Italy: 0.020
Croatia: 0.021
Montenegro: 0.022
Serbia: 0.022
Romania: 0.024
Slovakia: 0.024
Bosnia: 0.024
Bulgaria: 0.025
Macedonia: 0.026
Spain: 0.029
Ukraine West: 0.039
Gagauz: 0.031
Kosovo: 0.031
Portugal: 0.032
Poland: 0.033
Ukraine North: 0.034
Greek Macedonia: 0.035
Ukraine East: 0.035
Albania: 0.036
Tuscany: 0.036
Belarus: 0.037
Greek Peloponnese: 0.038
Russia: 0.040
Central Russia: 0.041
Abruzzo: 0.042
Tatar: 0.044
Lithuania: 0.044
Estonia: 0.046
Trapani: 0.046
Ingrian: 0.047
Finland: 0.048
Syracuse: 0.049
Mordovian: 0.049
South Italy: 0.050
West Russia: 0.050
Latvia: 0.051
Karelian: 0.052
Vepsian: 0.052
North Russia: 0.057


Peloponnesians:
Kosovo: 0.009
Greek Macedonia: 0.011
Abruzzo: 0.011
Albania: 0.011
Gagauz: 0.012
Tuscany: 0.014
Trapani: 0.014
Syracuse: 0.016
Bulgaria: 0.017
Macedonia: 0.017
South Italy: 0.018
Romania: 0.018
Montenegro: 0.020
North Italy: 0.021
Serbia: 0.023
Croatia: 0.030
Portugal: 0.030
Bosnia: 0.031
Spain: 0.032
Hungary: 0.033
Austria: 0.034
Slovenia: 0.034
German: 0.035
Czech: 0.036
French: 0.036
Dutch: 0.037
Cornwall: 0.038
Kent: 0.038
Scotland: 0.039
Ireland: 0.041
Slovakia: 0.041
Orkney: 0.043
Ukraine West: 0.045
Norway: 0.046
Sweden: 0.047
Poland: 0.052
North Ukraine: 0.052
East Ukraine: 0.053
Tatar: 0.054
Belarus: 0.055
Russia: 0.057
Central Russia: 0.058
Lithuania: 0.063
Mordovian: 0.065
Estonia: 0.066
Ingrian: 0.066
West Russia: 0.066
Finland: 0.068
Latvia: 0.070
Vepsian: 0.071
Karelia: 0.072
North Russia: 0.075

Portuguese:
Spain: 0.010
North Italy: 0.021
Tuscany: 0.023
France: 0.026
Kosovo: 0.028
Abruzzo: 0.029
Trapani: 0.029
Greek Peloponnese: 0.030
Syracuse: 0.031
Albania: 0.032
Bulgaria: 0.032
Cornwall: 0.032
Macedonia: 0.032
Montenegro: 0.032
Romania: 0.032
Kent: 0.032
Dutch: 0.032
South Italy: 0.033
Serbia: 0.033
Gagauz: 0.033
Austria: 0.034
Greek Macedonia: 0.034
Germany: 0.034
Scotland: 0.035
Hungary: 0.036
Orkney: 0.036
Ireland: 0.036
Croatia: 0.038
Czech: 0.038
Slovenia: 0.039
Bosnia: 0.040
Norway: 0.040
Sweden: 0.044
Slovakia: 0.045
West Ukraine: 0.049
Poland: 0.055
East Ukraine: 0.056
North Ukraine: 0.057
Belarus: 0.058
Russia: 0.061
Central Russia: 0.063
Tatar: 0.063
Lithuania: 0.067
Estonia: 0.068
Finland: 0.069
Ingrian: 0.070
Mordovian: 0.070
West Russia: 0.072
Vepsian: 0.073
Karelia: 0.073
Latvia: 0.073
North Russia: 0.078

Are these percentages?

Lol, the distance between Northern and Southern Italians (0.032) is virtually the same as that between Central Russians and Croats (0.031).

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Originally Posted by Leto

Lol, the distance between Northern and Southern Italians (0.032) is virtually the same as that between Central Russians and Croats (0.031).

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What I think is interesting is Trapani is closer to Albanians than to Macedonian Greeks, and that Peloponnesians are closest to Kosovars. The Albanian samples on here clearly are quite south shifted.

North and south Italians (the south Italian sample being Calabria) are quite apart. The South Italy sample is also the furthest of all the European samples from the other samples (meaning any North/East/Central Euro population is likely closer to 99% of the list than to the Calabrese).

Also Peloponnesians on there definitely are more "southern" than the Greek Macedonians, but less so than Abruzzo or Trapani.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Lol, the distance between Northern and Southern Italians (0.032) is virtually the same as that between Central Russians and Croats (0.031).

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There is a pattern but it also depends heavily on the samples used (example: some samples were not collected to represent the average of a population), the type and number of components.

These are the distances based on the Eurogenes K15 and the MDLP 16 modern.


https://image.ibb.co/kzfX97/distances_Eurogenes_K15.jpg


On MDLP 16 modern Italian Bergamo, Italian North and Italian Friuli are all northern Italian samples.

https://image.ibb.co/dq0JGn/distance...DLP_modern.jpg

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Originally Posted by Percivalle

There is a pattern but it also depends heavily on the samples used (example: some samples were not collected to represent the average of a population), the type and number of components.

These are the distances based on the Eurogenes K15 and the MDLP 16 modern.


https://image.ibb.co/kzfX97/distances_Eurogenes_K15.jpg


On MDLP 16 modern Italian Bergamo, Italian North and Italian Friuli are all northern Italian samples.

https://image.ibb.co/dq0JGn/distance...DLP_modern.jpg

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Central Greek (Athenians and North Aegean islands) is very close to their East Sicily (Syracuse) sample in Eurogenes K13.

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Originally Posted by Percivalle

These are the distances based on the Eurogenes K15 and the MDLP 16 modern.

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Do you have similar data based on K13?

In the ones Percivalle posted, Sicilians are, again, closer to Bulgarians than to Iberia.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

In the ones Percivalle posted, Sicilians are, again, closer to Bulgarians than to Iberia.

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In that table North Italians are even more distant from South Italians than Smolensk Russians (the far West of Russia) are from Croats.

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Originally Posted by Leto

In that table North Italians are even more distant from South Italians than Smolensk Russians (the far West of Russia) are from Croats.

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That is shocking to me still.

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Originally Posted by Leto

In that table North Italians are even more distant from South Italians than Smolensk Russians (the far West of Russia) are from Croats.

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Yet North Italians are as close to West Sicily as to the French sample.