-
Classify another Baltic looking Tatar girl
-
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tellerin
Gorid
Isn't she textbook Coo's East Baltic?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n_Blomberg.jpg
-
Dude you are tatar maniac :D
Yes she is baltid :)
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kis_Kócos
Dude you are tatar maniac :D
Yes she is baltid :)
Yes, she is Baltic.
This type is very common among Tatar girls even more than among some South Slavs.
-
There are not many real Tatars in modern Russia.
People you erroneously (and intentionally) call "Tatars" call themselves "Bugari" and are descendants mainly of ancient Bulgars.
They are Volga Bulgarians.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
There are not many real Tatars in modern Russia.
People you erroneously (and intentionally) call "Tatars" call themselves "Bugari" and are descendants mainly of ancient Bulgars.
They are Volga Bulgarians.
Wut?
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
Wut?
Yes, Tatar is an imperialist term that became (in its present meaning) popular in the USSR under Lenin.
"The present territory of Tatarstan was inhabited by the Volga Bulgars, who settled on the Volga river in the 7th century AD and converted to Islam in 922 during the missionary work of Ahmad ibn Fadlan. After the Mongol invasion, Volga Bulgaria was annexed by the Golden Horde. Most of the population survived, and there may have been a certain degree of mixing between it and the Kipchaks of the Horde during the ensuing period. The group as a whole accepted the exonym "Tatars" (finally in the end of the 19th century; although the name Bulgars persisted in some places; the majority identified themselves simply as the Muslims) and the language of the Kipchaks; on the other hand, the invaders eventually converted to Islam. As the Horde disintegrated in the 15th century, the area became the territory of the Kazan khanate, which was ultimately conquered by Russia in the 16th century.
Some Volga Tatars speak different dialects of Tatar language. Therefore, they form distinct groups such as the Mişär group and the Qasim group. Mişär-Tatars (or Mishars) are a group of Tatars speaking a dialect of the Tatar language. They live in Chelyabinsk, Tambov, Penza, Ryazan, Nizhegorodskaya oblasts of Russia and in Bashkortostan and Mordovia. They lived near and along the Volga River, in Tatarstan. The Western Tatars have their capital in the town of Qasím (Kasimov in Russian transcription) in Ryazan Oblast, with a Tatar population of 1100. A minority of Christianized Volga Tatars are known as Keräşens.
The Volga Tatars used the Turkic Old Tatar language for their literature between the 15th and 19th centuries. It was written in the İske imlâ variant of the Arabic script, but actual spelling varied regionally. The older literary language included a large number of Arabic and Persian loanwords. The modern literary language, however, often uses Russian and other European-derived words instead.
Outside of Tatarstan, urban Tatars usually speak Russian as their first language (in cities such as Moscow, Saint-Petersburg, Nizhniy Novgorod, Tashkent, Almaty, and cities of the Ural and western Siberia) and other languages in a worldwide diaspora.
In the 1910s the Volga Tatars numbered about half a million in the Kazan Governorate in Tatarstan, their historical homeland, about 400,000 in each of the governments of Ufa, 100,000 in Samara and Simbirsk, and about 30,000 in Vyatka, Saratov, Tambov, Penza, Nizhny Novgorod, Perm and Orenburg. An additional 15,000 had migrated to Ryazan or were settled as prisoners in the 16th and 17th centuries in Lithuania (Vilnius, Grodno and Podolia). An additional 2000 resided in St. Petersburg.
Most Kazan Tatars practice Sunni Islam. The Kazan Tatars speak the Tatar language, a Turkic language with a substantial amount of Russian and Arabic loanwords.
Before 1917, polygamy was practiced only by the wealthier classes and was a waning institution.
There is an ethnic nationalist movement among Kazan Tatars that stresses descent from the Bulgars and is known as Bulgarism – there have been graffiti on the walls in the streets of Kazan with phrases such as "Bulgaria is alive" (Булгария жива)
A significant number of Volga Tatars emigrated during the Russian Civil War, mostly to Turkey and Harbin, China. According to the Chinese government, there are still 5,100 Tatars living in Xinjiang province."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars#Volga_Tatars
-
@The Blade
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Stop spreading your nonsense around here.
You're a complete zero not only in anthropology but in history.
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
@The Blade
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Stop spreading your nonsense around here.
You're a complete zero not only in anthropology but in history.
Fuck off, idiot!
I told you and your friend Krivich: I have an actual master's degree in history from a university - a place you can only dream of being part of judging by the quality of your posts.
Also, you know nothing about anthropology, works of authors you quote and quote them only when it suits you ignoring facts they wrote you don't like.
The only zero here is you and I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.
-
Fuck off Blade you disgusting Gyppo
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Harkonnen
Fuck off Blade you disgusting Gyppo
Suck my dick, Uralic cunt!
And I'm not a Gypo, unlike the original poster, by the way.
-
You fucking piece of shit fag gyppo
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
There are not many real Tatars in modern Russia.
People you erroneously (and intentionally) call "Tatars" call themselves "Bugari" and are descendants mainly of ancient Bulgars.
They are Volga Bulgarians.
Are you trying to claim there some fucking Bulgarians there, or whatthehell is your point.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
Fuck off, idiot!
I told you and your friend Krivich: I have an actual master's degree in history from a university - a place you can only dream of being part of judging by the quality of your posts.
Also, you know nothing about anthropology, works of authors you quote and quote them only when it suits you ignoring facts they wrote you don't like.
The only zero here is you and I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.
You are just zero in everything.
Go and learn real history not myths.
https://www.tataroved.ru
-
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
These are not myths but facts, not your Lenin manipulation of history.
-
Famous Tatar historian Rafael Hakimov(not Bulgarian pseudo historian The Blade) about "Bulgarians".
https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/77295
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Harkonnen
Are you trying to claim there some fucking Bulgarians there, or whatthehell is your point.
I provided the original poster with information needed.
Ahmad ibn Fadlan also visited Volga Bulgaria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan
-
Just stay in your fucking Bulgaria, you fucking gyppo cunt. I'm just so fucking fed up with your bullshit.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Harkonnen
Just stay in your fucking Bulgaria, you fucking gyppo cunt. I'm just so fucking fed up with your bullshit.
Feeling is mutual.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
I'm not interested in what a 21st century commie betrayer has to say.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
These are not myths but facts, not your Lenin manipulation of history.
There is book "Перепись 1897 года и татары Казанской губернии"
"The census 1897 y in Kazan Governorate".
You can find out what the Tatars really called themselves.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
Isn't she textbook Coo's East Baltic?
Isn't her eye-eyebrows distance Alpine ?
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
Do you know what the people of Bulgaria called themselves?
-
Show me the source where we learn that the population of Bulgaria called themselves "Bulgars".
-
We do not know what the people of Bulgaria really called themselves.
We have no such sources.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
meiliren
Do you know what the people of Bulgaria called themselves?
They called themselves Bugari. Tatar is a term that was first used as a reference to a completely different tribe of Mongoloid stock.
Although used earlier it didn't become popular in its current and fake meaning Volga Bulgarians don't care about until Lenin and the communist revolution.
-
I don't know what the hell you are on about. Those Bulgars who gave name to modern Bulgaria definitely were Turks/Tatars from Volga.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Harkonnen
I don't know what the hell you are on about. Those Bulgars who gave name to modern Bulgaria definitely were Turks/Tatars from Volga.
For once your logic tells you something.
Volga Bulgarians, ancient Bulgars and modern Danube Bulgarians have a lot in common.
-
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
For once your logic tells you something.
Volga Bulgarians, ancient Bulgars and modern Danube Bulgarians have a lot in common.
I'm pretty confident Volga Bulgarians were similar to Volga Tatars and don't have much to do with modern Bulgarians.
-
Quote:
Originally Posted by
The Blade
They called themselves Bugari. Tatar is a term that was first used as a reference to a completely different tribe of Mongoloid stock.
Although used earlier it didn't become popular in its current and fake meaning Volga Bulgarians don't care about until Lenin and the communist revolution.
Source?
When the Russians in 1552 conquered the Khanate of Kazan they found Chuvash, Mari, Udmurts and Muslim population which was the ruling class in Khanate of Kazan.
Chuvash, Mari and Udmurts were the main population of the the Khanate of Kazan.
Source
Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов
Where did the "Bulgars" go?
-
Bring up her lineage or she's not a Tatar :)
-
Just learn it and find me "Bulgars".
Писцовая книга Казанского уезда 1602—1603 годов
http://сувары.рф/en/book/export/html/354