Eurogenes Averages For Various Jewish Groups

Eurogenes K13


Algerian_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.03
2 West_Med 22.86
3 North_Atlantic 12.58
4 West_Asian 10.35
5 Red_Sea 7.63
6 Baltic 3.47
7 Northeast_African 2.22
8 Sub-Saharan 1.91
9 South_Asian 0.75
10 East_Asian 0.51
11 Oceanian 0.43
12 Siberian 0.27

Ashkenazi_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.61
2 West_Med 18.44
3 North_Atlantic 15.32
4 West_Asian 10.29
5 Baltic 10.16
6 Red_Sea 5.98
7 Northeast_African 1.15
8 South_Asian 1.04
9 Siberian 0.97
10 East_Asian 0.79
11 Sub-Saharan 0.50
12 Amerindian 0.46
13 Oceanian 0.29

Georgian_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.59
2 West_Asian 36.22
3 West_Med 10.91
4 Red_Sea 8.26
5 Baltic 3.28
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 North_Atlantic 0.77
8 East_Asian 0.37
9 Amerindian 0.26
10 Oceanian 0.16
11 Northeast_African 0.11
12 Siberian 0.09

Iranian_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.97
2 West_Asian 29.82
3 Red_Sea 9.77
4 West_Med 8.94
5 South_Asian 5.83
6 North_Atlantic 1.26
7 Baltic 0.87
8 Northeast_African 0.74
9 Oceanian 0.33
10 Siberian 0.25
11 Sub-Saharan 0.20
12 Amerindian 0.01
13 East_Asian 0.01

Italian_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.45
2 West_Med 21.20
3 North_Atlantic 15.54
4 West_Asian 10.89
5 Red_Sea 7.05
6 Baltic 2.81
7 Northeast_African 1.82
8 Oceanian 0.88
9 East_Asian 0.70
10 Amerindian 0.27
11 Siberian 0.21
12 South_Asian 0.14
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Kurdish_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.89
2 West_Asian 30.50
3 Red_Sea 10.63
4 West_Med 10.41
5 South_Asian 3.93
6 North_Atlantic 0.80
7 East_Asian 0.57
8 Northeast_African 0.53
9 Baltic 0.29
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 Amerindian 0.14
12 Siberian 0.05

Libyan_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.94
2 West_Med 18.89
3 West_Asian 11.41
4 North_Atlantic 11.29
5 Red_Sea 10.84
6 Northeast_African 5.28
7 Sub-Saharan 0.99
8 South_Asian 0.70
9 Oceanian 0.59
10 Amerindian 0.52
11 Baltic 0.51
12 East_Asian 0.04
13 Siberian 0.01

Sephardic_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.91
2 West_Med 19.83
3 North_Atlantic 15.63
4 West_Asian 13.04
5 Red_Sea 8.90
6 Baltic 1.81
7 Northeast_African 1.12
8 Siberian 0.78
9 Sub-Saharan 0.65
10 South_Asian 0.61
11 East_Asian 0.38
12 Oceanian 0.33

Tunisian_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.64
2 West_Med 18.66
3 West_Asian 12.12
4 North_Atlantic 12.01
5 Red_Sea 10.43
6 Northeast_African 3.69
7 Sub-Saharan 1.12
8 Baltic 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.64
10 Siberian 0.41
11 East_Asian 0.32
12 South_Asian 0.21
13 Amerindian 0.08

Yemenite_Jewish

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 52.36
2 Red_Sea 28.49
3 West_Asian 6.28
4 Northeast_African 5.68
5 West_Med 5.52
6 South_Asian 0.71
7 Oceanian 0.25
8 North_Atlantic 0.23
9 Siberian 0.23
10 Amerindian 0.19
11 East_Asian 0.06

Interesting they all drift to their host nations

Algerian jews have a strong Iberian component and levantine

Mine (mostly Moroccan Jew):

Population
North_Atlantic 13.12
Baltic 2.57
West_Med 19.73
West_Asian 12.38
East_Med 36.28
Red_Sea 9.72
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.19
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.26
Sub-Saharan 3.71


My grandmother (Moroccan and Algerian Jewish)

Population
North_Atlantic 12.19 Pct
Baltic 5.02 Pct
West_Med 21.08 Pct
West_Asian 11.74 Pct
East_Med 35.65 Pct
Red_Sea 9.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_Asian 0.26 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African 1.57 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.80 Pct

I'm aware of my elevated sub-saharan.. it's probably because I have much more berber ancestry than average.
Funny thing I can count with my 2 hands the amount of non-albino people I met with fairer body skin (my face has normal color thanks to the sun) than I have...

I'm a mix so I'm not really representative of anything but I can provide you with some Mountain Jewish results if you fancy.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Mine (mostly Moroccan Jew):

Population
North_Atlantic 13.12
Baltic 2.57
West_Med 19.73
West_Asian 12.38
East_Med 36.28
Red_Sea 9.72
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.19
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.26
Sub-Saharan 3.71


My grandmother (Moroccan and Algerian Jewish)

Population
North_Atlantic 12.19 Pct
Baltic 5.02 Pct
West_Med 21.08 Pct
West_Asian 11.74 Pct
East_Med 35.65 Pct
Red_Sea 9.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_Asian 0.26 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African 1.57 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.80 Pct

I'm aware of my elevated sub-saharan.. it's probably because I have much more berber ancestry than average.
Funny thing I can count with my 2 hands the amount of non-albino people I met with fairer body skin (my face has normal color thanks to the sun) than I have...

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Your grandma is very Sephardic.

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Originally Posted by waam

I'm a mix so I'm not really representative of anything but I can provide you with some Mountain Jewish results if you fancy.

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Yeah, that would be good. I guess Mountain Jews are more or less like Georgian Jews. They look mostly West Asian.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, that would be good. I guess Mountain Jews are more or less like Georgian Jews. They look mostly West Asian.

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Actually closer to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. I'll send you the goods in a bit.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You're grandma is very Sephardic.

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Yes that's what I was thinking.
She also looks very Iberian/SW Euro :p

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Originally Posted by waam

Actually closer to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. I'll send you the goods in a bit.

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Well, you can post 'em here.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Yes that's what I was thinking.
She also looks very Iberian/SW Euro :p

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Was she born in Morocco?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Was she born in Morocco?

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Yes. In a small village in the Midelt province of Central Morocco (Her parents are not from there, also her results will be a bit atypical Euro-shifted for Central Morocco).

Here is the thread about her results if you want to revisit it (there are also pictures of her) https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-Results

Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.

#1
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.68
2 West_Asian 30.03
3 West_Med 13.55
4 Red_Sea 9.87
5 South_Asian 4.84
6 Baltic 3.1
7 Amerindian 0.63
8 North_Atlantic 0.47
9 Sub-Saharan 0.37
10 Siberian 0.28
11 Northeast_African 0.17


#2
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.27
2 West_Asian 30.98
3 West_Med 9.58
4 Red_Sea 7.66
5 North_Atlantic 4.41
6 South_Asian 3.9
7 Baltic 2.16
8 East_Asian 0.83
9 Oceanian 0.21


3#
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.85
2 West_Asian 33.08
3 West_Med 10.13
4 Red_Sea 8.54
5 South_Asian 3.35
6 North_Atlantic 1.83
7 Baltic 1.36
8 Siberian 0.71
9 Sub-Saharan 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.54


#4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.29
2 West_Asian 34.42
3 Red_Sea 8.35
4 West_Med 7.9
5 South_Asian 4.52
6 North_Atlantic 2.92
7 Baltic 1.57
8 Amerindian 0.47
9 Northeast_African 0.28
10 East_Asian 0.18
11 Oceanian 0.1


#5
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.95
2 West_Asian 35.03
3 West_Med 10.71
4 Red_Sea 7.36
5 South_Asian 5.43
6 North_Atlantic 1.86
7 Baltic 1.54
8 Amerindian 0.84
9 Oceanian 0.27


#6
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.26
2 West_Asian 34.13
3 West_Med 11.73
4 Red_Sea 8.23
5 South_Asian 5.47
6 North_Atlantic 2.95
7 Amerindian 0.85
8 Northeast_African 0.39


#7
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.39
2 West_Asian 34.45
3 West_Med 10.3
4 Red_Sea 7.04
5 North_Atlantic 4.31
6 South_Asian 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Sub-Saharan 0.77
9 Siberian 0.48
10 East_Asian 0.22


#8
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.92
2 West_Asian 32.26
3 West_Med 12.72
4 Red_Sea 7.28
5 North_Atlantic 3.85
6 South_Asian 2.99
7 Northeast_African 0.87
8 Sub-Saharan 0.7
9 Amerindian 0.22
10 Oceanian 0.19


#9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.57
2 West_Asian 31.59
3 West_Med 9.52
4 Red_Sea 7.81
5 Baltic 3.76
6 South_Asian 3.69
7 Northeast_African 2.08
8 Amerindian 0.48
9 North_Atlantic 0.31
10 Oceanian 0.17


#10
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.53
2 West_Asian 35.55
3 West_Med 10.6
4 Red_Sea 7.15
5 South_Asian 4.87
6 North_Atlantic 2.24
7 East_Asian 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 Baltic 0.32
10 Northeast_African 0.28
11 Siberian 0.13

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Originally Posted by waam

Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.

#1
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.68
2 West_Asian 30.03
3 West_Med 13.55
4 Red_Sea 9.87
5 South_Asian 4.84
6 Baltic 3.1
7 Amerindian 0.63
8 North_Atlantic 0.47
9 Sub-Saharan 0.37
10 Siberian 0.28
11 Northeast_African 0.17


#2
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.27
2 West_Asian 30.98
3 West_Med 9.58
4 Red_Sea 7.66
5 North_Atlantic 4.41
6 South_Asian 3.9
7 Baltic 2.16
8 East_Asian 0.83
9 Oceanian 0.21


3#
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.85
2 West_Asian 33.08
3 West_Med 10.13
4 Red_Sea 8.54
5 South_Asian 3.35
6 North_Atlantic 1.83
7 Baltic 1.36
8 Siberian 0.71
9 Sub-Saharan 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.54


#4
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.29
2 West_Asian 34.42
3 Red_Sea 8.35
4 West_Med 7.9
5 South_Asian 4.52
6 North_Atlantic 2.92
7 Baltic 1.57
8 Amerindian 0.47
9 Northeast_African 0.28
10 East_Asian 0.18
11 Oceanian 0.1


#5
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.95
2 West_Asian 35.03
3 West_Med 10.71
4 Red_Sea 7.36
5 South_Asian 5.43
6 North_Atlantic 1.86
7 Baltic 1.54
8 Amerindian 0.84
9 Oceanian 0.27


#6
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.26
2 West_Asian 34.13
3 West_Med 11.73
4 Red_Sea 8.23
5 South_Asian 5.47
6 North_Atlantic 2.95
7 Amerindian 0.85
8 Northeast_African 0.39


#7
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.39
2 West_Asian 34.45
3 West_Med 10.3
4 Red_Sea 7.04
5 North_Atlantic 4.31
6 South_Asian 3.22
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Sub-Saharan 0.77
9 Siberian 0.48
10 East_Asian 0.22


#8
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.92
2 West_Asian 32.26
3 West_Med 12.72
4 Red_Sea 7.28
5 North_Atlantic 3.85
6 South_Asian 2.99
7 Northeast_African 0.87
8 Sub-Saharan 0.7
9 Amerindian 0.22
10 Oceanian 0.19


#9
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.57
2 West_Asian 31.59
3 West_Med 9.52
4 Red_Sea 7.81
5 Baltic 3.76
6 South_Asian 3.69
7 Northeast_African 2.08
8 Amerindian 0.48
9 North_Atlantic 0.31
10 Oceanian 0.17


#10
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.53
2 West_Asian 35.55
3 West_Med 10.6
4 Red_Sea 7.15
5 South_Asian 4.87
6 North_Atlantic 2.24
7 East_Asian 0.96
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 Baltic 0.32
10 Northeast_African 0.28
11 Siberian 0.13

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Someone told me that Mizrahi Jews are converted Assyrians, but I guess it's like saying Ashkenazim are just converted Sicilians.
But indeed it seems Mizrahi aren't pure Judean as well, they mixed with local Mesopotamians and Western Asians.
I guess original Judeans are long gone.... Samaritans are the closest thing we have.

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Originally Posted by waam

Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.

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Interesting. They originally spoke an Iranic language. Are they mostly assimilated now in Israel? There are almost none left in the North Caucasus now.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Someone told me that Mizrahi Jews are converted Assyrians, but I guess it's like saying Ashkenazim are just converted Sicilians.
But indeed it seems Mizrahi aren't pure Judean as well, they mixed with local Mesopotamians and Western Asians.
I guess original Judeans are long gone.... Samaritans are the closest thing we have.

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I doubt they are converted Assyrians but certainly have mixed with them. I actually think contrary to popular belief on these forums that Iraqi Jews would be mostly of Judean ancestry, or at least the most ethnically Jewish out of all the Mizrahi diaspora populations.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Interesting. They originally spoke an Iranic language. Are they mostly assimilated now in Israel? There are almost none left in the North Caucasus now.

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Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...

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Originally Posted by waam

Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...

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Interesting... I actually don't know any mountain Jews in real life. Only very few georgian Jews when it comes to the Caucasus.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Interesting... I actually don't know any mountain Jews in real life. Only very few georgian Jews when it comes to the Caucasus.

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Huh really... Where are you from?

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Originally Posted by waam

Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...

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Wait, are you a Mountain Jew? I thought you were Sephardic.

I think Maghrebi Jews are 100% assimilated now. By 1970 or around that time there were almost no Jews left in North Africa.

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Originally Posted by waam

Huh really... Where are you from?

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Small place in the central. Most people here are mixed so it’s hard to find someone of pure something.
There are even some full gentile families or half gentile families (with atypical things like half serbs or 3/4 siberians like WTF lol) where I live. Someone in my school is 50% ethnic gentile Iranian like HOW?!

Most common thing here are ofcourse mixes Ashkenazi Jews, North African jews, Yemenite Jews, East Sephardi Jews (Bulgaria and Turkey), Iraqi, Syrian, Kurdish and Iranian Jews and that’s about it.

Not really Jews from the Caucasus/Greece&Yugoslavia/Lebanon/Italy where I live.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Wait, are you a Mountain Jew? I thought you were Sephardic.

I think Maghrebi Jews are 100% assimilated now. By 1970 or around that time there were almost no Jews left in North Africa.

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I'm 50% Mountain Jewish, 25% Yemenite Jewish and 25% Libyan Jewish. And yeah I would agree, for me when I think of the standard typical Israeli a North African Jew pops to mind.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Wait, are you a Mountain Jew? I thought you were Sephardic.

I think Maghrebi Jews are 100% assimilated now. By 1970 or around that time there were almost no Jews left in North Africa.

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He is Mountain Jew and Libyan Jew and Yemenite Jewish mix if I remember correctly.
Non of those is technically Sephardic. Libyan Jews aren’t very Sephardic, similar to Syrian Jews the Sephardi influence was small.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Small place in the central. Most people here are mixed so it’s hard to find someone of pure something.
There are even some full gentile families or half gentile families (with atypical things like half serbs or 3/4 siberians like WTF lol) where I live. Someone in my school is 50% ethnic gentile Iranian like HOW?!

Most common thing here are ofcourse mixes Ashkenazi Jews, North African jews, Yemenite Jews, East Sephardi Jews (Bulgaria and Turkey), Iraqi, Syrian, Kurdish and Iranian Jews and that’s about it.

Not really Jews from the Caucasus/Greece&Yugoslavia/Lebanon/Italy where I live.

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I guess that's what the Zionists wanted - to bring over Jews from all over the world and mix them up. Are there many Ashkenazi-Sephardic mixes over there?

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Originally Posted by waam

I'm 50% Mountain Jewish, 25% Yemenite Jewish and 25% Libyan Jewish. And yeah I would agree, for me when I think of the standard typical Israeli a North African Jew pops to mind.

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Ashkenazim seem to be the founding stock and dominant sociopolitically from what I know.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Ashkenazim seem to be the founding stock and dominant sociopolitically from what I know.

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Well I guess it also depends on where you live. Where I live North African Jews make up a big chunk of the population and generally if you take all Mizrahim into account we are more numerous than Ashkenazim in Israel.

I thought North African Jews were culturally Sephardic.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I guess that's what the Zionists wanted - to bring over Jews from all over the world and mix them up. Are there many Ashkenazi-Sephardic mixes over there?

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Yes I think nationally speaking a bit less than 35-40% of people from my generation are mix of Ashkenazi/Mizrai/Sephardi.
Where I live probably more.
Still very common to find pure Ashkenazim and pure Moroccan Jews.
Not common to find pure Iraqi Jews or other pure North African Jews.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I thought North African Jews were culturally Sephardic.

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The Mizrahi category is broader and would include anyone from Moroccan Jews to Turkish Jews to Bukharan Jews and anything in between. It's more common to refer to someone as Mizrahi rather than Sephardi (even if it's a proper Sephardi we're talking about), although it's quite interchangeable.

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

Yes I think nationally speaking a bit less than 35-40% of people from my generation are mix of Ashkenazi/Mizrai/Sephardi.
Where I live probably more.
Still very common to find pure Ashkenazim and pure Moroccan Jews.
Not common to find pure Iraqi Jews or other pure North African Jews.

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It is noticeable, Israelis tend to looks darker and more Near Eastern than Jews in the US, Russia or Europe. This politician is a typical Israeli, I guess (half Iraqi half Ashkenazi from Russia and Romania)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...LET_SHAKED.jpg

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Originally Posted by Leto

It is noticeable, Israelis tend to looks darker and more Near Eastern than Jews in the US, Russia or Europe. This politician is a typical Israeli, I guess (half Iraqi half Ashkenazi from Russia and Romania)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...LET_SHAKED.jpg

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She is pretty typical European looking Jewish.
There are much darker than her, and few that are much lighter.

When I hangout with my close friends sometimes I’m the only one with dark hair in the room, but that’s what happens when your friends are mostly Russian lol.

Mine
Mother: Moroccan jew,
Father: Egyptian/Turkish/Israeli Jewish mix

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.92
2 West_Med 22.25
3 West_Asian 16.72
4 North_Atlantic 10.3
5 Red_Sea 8.32
6 South_Asian 2.6
7 Sub-Saharan 1.62
8 Northeast_African 1.59
9 Baltic 0.68

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jewish 6.61
2 Algerian_Jewish 6.75
3 Tunisian_Jewish 7.29
4 Cyprian 7.8
5 Libyan_Jewish 7.93
6 Italian_Jewish 8.14
7 South_Italian 9.08
8 East_Sicilian 11.18
9 Lebanese_Muslim 11.35
10 Ashkenazi 11.99

And my new Ethnogene results:
https://i.imgur.com/GbXdwOy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/elUv0TZ.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

She is pretty typical European looking Jewish.
There are much darker than her, and few that are much lighter.

When I hangout with my close friends sometimes I’m the only one with dark hair in the room, but that’s what happens when your friends are mostly Russian lol.

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They must be mixed with ethnic Russians if they're that light.

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Originally Posted by Leto

They must be mixed with ethnic Russians if they're that light.

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I have met only 3 full Russian Jews in my entire life(they are Mediterranean)
.Every Russian I know is atleast 1/4 ethnic Russian.

My best Russian friends are-
2 people 50% Ethnic Russian, 50% Russian Jews
2 people 75% Russian (Europe&Asia), 25% Russian Jews (but they kinda dark skinned because of the Siberian side)
1 person 100% East Europe (Ukraine, Russia, Finland) 0% Jew.

Even some of my cousins aren’t full Jews (but the gentile side is Dutch not Russian).

You can not imagine how many racist jokes towards each other we have hahaaha:p

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

I have met only 3 full Russian Jews in my entire life(they are Mediterranean)
.Every Russian I know is atleast 1/4 ethnic Russian.

My best Russian friends are-
2 people 50% Ethnic Russian, 50% Russian Jews
2 people 75% Russian (Europe&Asia), 25% Russian Jews (but they kinda dark skinned because of the Siberian side)
1 person 100% East Europe (Ukraine, Russia, Finland) 0% Jew.

Even some of my cousins aren’t full Jews (but the gentile side is Dutch not Russian).

You can not imagine how many racist jokes towards each other we have hahaaha:p

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Siberian? Lol. Do you mean Mongoloid like Yakut, Buryat, etc.?
I am aware of the fact a lot of fake Jews emigrated from the Soviet Union to Israel in the late 80s and 90s. Many brought over spouses that weren't Jewish at all. Of course such people wouldn't feel close to, say, Yemenite Jews, Iraqi or even Sephardic.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Siberian? Lol. Do you mean Mongoloid like Yakut, Buryat, etc.?
I am aware of the fact a lot of fake Jews emigrated from the Soviet Union to Israel in the late 80s and 90s. Many brought over spouses that weren't Jewish at all. Of course such people wouldn't feel close to, say, Yemenite Jews, Iraqi or even Sephardic.

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Buying documents wasn't uncommon at all either in the former USSR. An acquaintance of my family was Jewish and married to a Lezgin woman, and they actually bought fake documents thus she is listed as an ethnic Jew despite being Lezgin and Muslim lol.

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Originally Posted by waam

Buying documents wasn't uncommon at all either in the former USSR. An acquaintance of my family was Jewish and married to a Lezgin woman, and they actually bought fake documents thus she is listed as an ethnic Jew despite being Lezgin and Muslim lol.

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She can pass as a Mountain Jew, haha :D

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Originally Posted by Leto

Siberian? Lol. Do you mean Mongoloid like Yakut, Buryat, etc.?
I am aware of the fact a lot of fake Jews emigrated from the Soviet Union to Israel in the late 80s and 90s. Many brought over spouses that weren't Jewish at all. Of course such people wouldn't feel close to, say, Yemenite Jews, Iraqi or even Sephardic.

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"Of course such people wouldn't feel close to, say, Yemenite Jews, Iraqi or even Sephardic."
I don't understand why you think so.
We don't look at ethnicity when we choose our friends. We are together in School, afternoon circles, working places and ect.. It's only natural to develop friendships and relationships with our fellow homosapienses regardless of ethnic background.

Again one of my best friends is 100% Gentile and moved to Israel when she was 8 years old. Before moving here she was kinda anti-semitic (her family wasn't fan of Jews) but now all her friends are Jews and she even says that she prefer us (her Jewish friends of all backgrounds) over any non-Israeli Russian person.
Many Russian (not necessarily Jews) are mixing with Moroccan Jews and with many other types of Jews. There is even a song in Israel "Half Russian Half Moroccan"...

Feeling close to someone isn't just about Ethnicity, it's also about friendships, relationships...

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Originally Posted by Sp_loa

"Of course such people wouldn't feel close to, say, Yemenite Jews, Iraqi or even Sephardic."
I don't understand why you think so.
We don't look at ethnicity when we choose our friends. We are together in School, afternoon circles, working places and ect.. It's only natural to develop friendships and relationships with our fellow homosapienses regardless of ethnic background.

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You didn't get me. I mean as peoples, despite them being all classified as Jews, they are still very different both culturally and physically.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You didn't get me. I mean as peoples, despite them being all classified as Jews, they are still very different both culturally and physically.

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Yep that’s true. Jewish groups differ greatly.
I find it hard to consider Jews as an ethnic group for that matter.

Is this within pure ashkenazi range or likely part sephardic?

Population
North_Atlantic 14.95
Baltic 4.99
West_Med 19.02
West_Asian 14.44
East_Med 35.68
Red_Sea 6.14
South_Asian -
East_Asian 2.39
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08
Oceanian 0.97
Northeast_African 0.17
Sub-Saharan 1.17