The average of two references (South_Italian and French)
North_Atlantic 29.66
West_Med 21.14
East_Med 21.08
Baltic 11.7
West_Asian 9.99
Red_Sea 3.97
South_Asian 0.88
:swl
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The average of two references (South_Italian and French)
North_Atlantic 29.66
West_Med 21.14
East_Med 21.08
Baltic 11.7
West_Asian 9.99
Red_Sea 3.97
South_Asian 0.88
:swl
Where is typical South Italian SSA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Distance to: Samnium
3.95898977 Emilia
4.19908323 Tuscany
4.53836975 Liguria
5.18858362 Romagna
5.52972875 Tuscan
6.02987562 Umbria
6.65089468 Veneto
7.01799117 Marche
7.08697397 Friuli-VG
7.22964729 Lazio
7.56161358 Piedmont
7.58373259 Lombardy
9.02366334 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.43074758 FrenchCorsica
9.93756509 Trentino
10.12368510 Greek_Western-Thrace
10.16015414 Kosovo_Albanian
10.28528074 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
10.65752786 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
10.72698466 Swiss-Italian
11.06280254 Swiss_Italian
11.10258528 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.19793284 Greek_Western-Macedonia
11.23089489 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
11.40384584 Albanian
Target: Samnium
Distance: 0.4553% / 0.45531662
21.2 Marche
16.2 Lombardy
11.0 Swiss_Italian
9.2 North-Dutch
6.4 French
6.0 French_Basque
4.6 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
4.4 Lebanese_Christian
4.0 Assyrian
3.2 Kurdish_Jewish
3.0 Southwest_English
1.6 Greek_Cypriot
1.6 Sardinian
1.4 Iranian_Jewish
1.4 Spanish_Aragon
1.0 Cyprian
1.0 Greek_Dodecanese
0.8 Kurd_Iran
0.8 Saudi
0.6 Southwest_French
0.4 Sardinia
0.2 Gujarati
Target: Samnium
Distance: 1.3825% / 1.38251932 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8 Umbria
26.2 Friuli-VG
13.0 Tuscan
5.4 Emilia
4.4 French
2.8 Scottish
1.2 Balochi
0.2 Tadjik
Target: Samnium
Distance: 2.4023% / 2.40232798 | ADC: 0.5x
39.6 Emilia
32.6 Umbria
26.8 Friuli-VG
1.0 Tadjik
The SI reference is 1% African (NE & SSA) and the remaining 0.5% is Asian, Siberian which I left out as noise. I can add that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Nice fake Samnium's nMonte.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
I don't give a rat's ass what he thinks, until he presents his actual results, I will think he is like that xD
FULL result (with the noise)
North_Atlantic 29.66
West_Med 21.14
East_Med 21.08
Baltic 11.7
West_Asian 9.99
Red_Sea 3.97
South_Asian 0.88
Amerindian 0.46
Northeast_African 0.37
Sub-Saharan 0.33
Oceanian 0.23
Siberian 0.22
East_Asian 0.12
Doesn't add up (100.15 percent)
I use Eurogenes k13 original spreadsheet, only one reference for Italy (Abruzzo)and one for France (Indetermined).
North_Atlantic 32.40 Baltic 13.06 West_Med 19.91West_Asian10 East_Med 18.90 Red_Sea 3.86 South_Asian 0.63 East_Asian 0.20 Siberian 0.26 Amerindian 0.22 Oceanian 0.32 Northeast_African 0.08 Sub-Saharan 0.10
(99.95)
Target: Samnium_fake
Distance: 0.1590% / 0.15898619
14.8 Italian_Abruzzo
12.0 North_Dutch
10.2 Tuscan
7.8 French
6.2 Lebanese_Christian
5.8 Cyprian
5.8 North_Italian
5.8 Southwest_English
5.8 Southwest_French
4.2 French_Basque
3.4 Lebanese_Druze
3.4 Spanish_Aragon
2.6 Norwegian
2.6 West_Scottish
2.4 South_Dutch
2.0 Georgian_Jewish
1.6 Sardinian
1.6 Southeast_English
0.8 Georgian
0.6 Austrian
0.4 Serbian
0.2 Saudi
Target: Samnium_fake
Distance: 6.2978% / 6.29776926 | ADC: 1x
94.0 North_Italian
6.0 Romanian
Target: Samnium_fake
Distance: 3.2305% / 3.23054514 | ADC: 0.5x
52.2 North_Italian
22.8 Tuscan
17.4 West_German
4.8 Italian_Abruzzo
2.2 Tabassaran
0.6 Romanian
Target: Samnium_fake
Distance: 1.1118% / 1.11183620 | ADC: 0.25x
28.6 French
25.2 Italian_Abruzzo
22.4 Tuscan
13.2 North_Italian
8.8 West_German
1.8 Tabassaran
Distance to: Samnium_fake
6.88531771 North_Italian
9.26481516 Tuscan
12.47683453 Portuguese
12.97991525 Spanish_Extremadura
13.96921973 Spanish_Galicia
14.01140250 Spanish_Murcia
14.27326522 Spanish_Cataluna
14.45306196 Romanian
14.79017241 Spanish_Andalucia
14.83345880 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
14.91895439 Spanish_Valencia
14.93870142 Italian_Abruzzo
14.96705716 French
15.29662708 Greek_Thessaly
15.73867212 Bulgarian
16.16431564 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
16.16984230 Serbian
16.23905785 West_Sicilian
18.04158530 Spanish_Cantabria
18.88115463 West_German
19.39427751 Spanish_Aragon
19.73325366 Central_Greek
19.83675377 Southwest_French
20.12835065 South_Dutch
20.38791063 East_Sicilian
Target: Samnium_fake lol
I donīt do this with disrespect intention, itīs only a innacurate prediction. A game, he has enough humour to understand it as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
@gixajo, you confused West_Med with West_Asian.
Well, no disrespect at all of course. Trolling can be inoffensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Really?, I did it fast I will review all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Ahaha. :laugh:
My italian side is also from Apulia which is very close to Central Greek reference (Abruzzo also) not South_Italian.
The "French" reference represent well Central France tho.
Probably we should first mix Abruzzo and South-Italian and then mix the result with the French average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
Anyway, I think relative similarity to Emilia-Romagna sounds very plausible and realistic. Yes, there is variation in Southern Italy but still we can make a reasonable projection based on what we know.
I think that my father will plot northern of French average, French average is really the "French" average, Southern and Central French are between 56/55% and 60% (N_Atlantic + Baltic combined), Northern French are above that (I've seen Alsatians at 65%).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Also on calculators you don't appear exactly as a midpoint so maybe the average isn't entirely true.
I copied the list of components you posted to save time, the original order is this: North_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian Northeast_African Sub-Saharan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Numbers are ok I guess.
How do you make samples with only K13 eurogenes results ? I'm interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Me too, maybe is some type of coordinates translator from k13 to g25.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
Which results did you like the most?
Please mix these twoQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Italian_Abruzzo
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.45
2 North_Atlantic 22.21
3 West_Med 20.33
4 West_Asian 15.04
5 Baltic 8.65
6 Red_Sea 4.90
7 Oceanian 0.41
8 East_Asian 0.25
9 Siberian 0.24
10 South_Asian 0.18
11 Amerindian 0.15
12 Northeast_African 0.10
13 Sub-Saharan 0.08
South_Italian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.82
2 West_Med 22.77
3 North_Atlantic 16.72
4 West_Asian 15.02
5 Baltic 5.91
6 Red_Sea 5.12
7 South_Asian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.53
9 Sub-Saharan 0.53
10 Northeast_African 0.44
11 Oceanian 0.23
12 Siberian 0.17
13 East_Asian 0.08
Supposed Samnium's mother
I don't know how my "calabrian side" is I think something like an average between Abruzzo and Central Greek will be more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
For my father, you can pick up a french result like that, typical northern french result :
K15:
North_Sea 23.99%
Atlantic 31.16%
Baltic 11.05%
Eastern_Euro 8.28%
West_Med 14.53%
West_Asian 3.06%
East_Med 5.22%
Red_Sea 1.26%
South_Asian 1.18%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.26%
Sub-Saharan -
K13
North_Atlantic 41.38%
Baltic 22.95%
West_Med 19.27%
West_Asian 3.96%
East_Med 9.22%
Red_Sea 0.85%
South_Asian 1.67%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.21%
Northeast_African 0.50%
Sub-Saharan -
A result like that sounds accurate. 12% East Med (W.Asian + East Med) which is neither too southern neither too northern.
By the way do you have the kits of Eurogenes references ?
No, I don't and they probably won't work because they were used as the references.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
Just test already, MyHeritage is very cheap.
Samnium will have the results of an average piedmontese.
He may come up as a little more Southern person. Emilia, around that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
It can be very variable, the variation being more on my italian side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I don't think that my Italian side is so southern shifted, definitely not.
Sorry I see late your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
1 East_Med 29.63
2 West_Med 22.49
3 North_Atlantic 18.52
4 West_Asian 15.03
5 Baltic 7.28
6 Red_Sea 5.01
7 South_Asian 0.59
8 Amerindian 0.38
9 Sub-Saharan 0.38
10 Northeast_African 0.31
11 Oceanian 0.19
12 Siberian 0.14
13 East_Asian 0.08
(100.03)
I did also fast, I hope iīs ok.
You could just post Sikeliot result:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Can you do half Central Greek half Abruzzo ? I think I can take that it would be accurate, my mother is 25% apulian, apulians are more Greek shifted so... Abruzzo is west of Central Greek reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Lot of Apulians score around/close that reference.
It's fine, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
French average
1 North_Atlantic 42.60
2 West_Med 19.50
3 Baltic 17.48
4 East_Med 10.33
5 West_Asian 4.96
6 Red_Sea 2.82
7 South_Asian 1.08
8 Amerindian 0.38
9 Siberian 0.27
10 Oceanian 0.23
11 East_Asian 0.15
12 Sub-Saharan 0.12
13 Northeast_African 0.07
Samnium is not that homosexual's sock account. Also, Sik is 1/4 Polish supposedly and 1/4 Kabu Verdi Portuguese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukasz
I have nothing against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Wrong, I remade it, sorry.
No, its wrong, please give me results in order... my fault, I did it bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
No itīs ok if you ordered well, sorry. my Samnium result is what is wrong. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
I make it again, :picard1:Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Not correct, North Atlantic component is at 19.46, West Med is at 21.55.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
I made an excel sheet.
I will test these combinations : the french result that I posted + Abruzzo, + Central Greek + Abruzzo (mix of both) and + Abruzzo + South_Italian (mix of both).
Okay, folks, you can continue without me xD
Overall I think it's not difficult to say that I will end up like a Northern Italian. Pretty easy actually. Half "Southern" Italian (a "classic" Southern Italian plotting around S-Italian reference) half Northern Italian plot in Central Italy, half Southern Italian half French plot in N.Italy. That's quite logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Now I think that Emilia is not accurate taking in account that my french ancestry is in majority from an area that's Northern France (and I'm a bit aostan, but Aostans are very northern shifted and many of them end up in Northern France genetically), I can't predict how my italian side would be, but surely not like S-Italian reference, Apulians have recent Greek admixture and they plot around Central_Greek and I've seen even Apulians plotting in Central Italy (quite atypical).
Also I don't think that you appear exactly as a midpoint, so it's difficult to say (but I think taking averages is the method with less uncertainty).