You guys think the Slavic is legit? (I guess to a certain extent it's normal in Germany but it's consistent in these calculators, also with Myheritage)
08-10-2020, 03:18 PM
gixajo
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Originally Posted by Kyp
My Mother
You guys think the Slavic is legit? (I guess to a certain extent it's normal in Germany but it's consistent in these calculators, also with Myheritage)
This ancient reference for Slavic is used commonly as very good one. Maybe some member more specialized in Eastern Europe can say it better than me.
In individual averages they are Germans that score much more Slavic than your mother, so I donīt know if itīs an accurate reference for Slavic, but Germans score in Slavic quite ussually as far as I know, and those from East Germany more than West Germans.
If you use as a German reference the original German reference from datasheet , probably your mother will score less Slavic, and if you use the Eastern German reference, even less.
All depends in references used, itīs the eternal war here among those who post models and their detractors.
The only undubious reference here is Altaic one (modern) and German one(modern too), ancient Slavic too but from ancient populations datasheet, and both paleo Balkans references, are quite debatable IMO.
08-10-2020, 03:33 PM
Kyp
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Originally Posted by gixajo
This ancient reference for Slavic is used commonly as very good one. Maybe some member more specialized in Eastern Europe can say it better than me.
In individual averages they are Germans that score much more Slavic than your mother, so I donīt know if itīs an accurate reference for Slavic, but Germans score in Slavic quite ussually as far as I know, and those from East Germany more than West Germans.
If you use as a German reference the original German reference from datasheet , probably your mother will score less Slavic, and if you use the Eastern German reference, even less.
All depends in references used, itīs the eternal war here among those who post models and their detractors.
The only undubious reference here is Altaic one (modern) and German one(modern too), ancient Slavic too but from ancient populations datasheet, and both paleo Balkans references, are quite debatable IMO.
I'm inclined to believe it's true as my mother scores 32.9% East European (East European + some Balkan) on MH. But I don't know how ancient it is. There also has been medieval Slavic settlement in the nearby regions to the east. So it could be possible but I don't see a way to confirm such a thing.
08-10-2020, 03:56 PM
gixajo
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Originally Posted by Kyp
I'm inclined to believe it's true as my mother scores 32.9% East European (East European + some Balkan) on MH. But I don't know how ancient it is. There also has been medieval Slavic settlement in the nearby regions to the east. So it could be possible but I don't see a way to confirm such a thing.
You mother is undoubtely German, simply Germans are not isolated population, so itīs normal to score something related with neighbouring populations. Same for anybody in Europe, the "purest" individuals are hard to find in any ethnicity, and these "purest" individuals would constitute a minimum percentage of any ethnic group.
On the other hand, each ethnic estimate will give you a different percentage.My mother is Southern Basque, and in G25 she scores between 47% and 70% basque, depending on references. In MyHeritage is 100% Iberian, but the same raw data from MH exported to other companies, gave her quite less.
08-10-2020, 04:06 PM
Kyp
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Originally Posted by gixajo
You mother is undoubtely German, simply Germans are not isolated population, so itīs normal to score something related with neighbouring populations. Same for anybody in Europe, the "purest" individuals are hard to find in any ethnicity, and these "purest" individuals would constitute a minimum percentage of any ethnic group.
On the other hand, each ethnic estimate will give you a different percentage.My mother is Southern Basque, and in G25 she scores between 47% and 70% basque, depending on references. In MyHeritage is 100% Iberian, but the same raw data from MH exported to other companies, gave her quite less.
Yes no doubt about her being 100% German (around 95% actually because of distant French ancestry) same as Eastern Germans being 100% German, but I'm still interested in the history/ethnogenesis of the people. You can look this up (if you're interested) for example we are from close to the West: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Slavica/wiki/Bavaria_Slavica[/URL]
So there is a small continuum from Eastern Germany to the most northern parts of modern Bavaria in terms of Slavic ancestry possible.
