Eurogenes K13 model for Greeks.

Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp,0. 27,0.00,12.37,18.62,47.19,15.98,1.52,1.98,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,2.06,0.00
Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp ,2.37,9.60,2.72,37.63,29.87,7.39,8.04,0.00,1.16,0. 00,0.65,0.00,0.57
Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00
Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp, 0.00,0.00,13.46,4.64,50.41,23.40,0.00,0.99,0.61,0. 16,0.00,6.33,0.00
Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp ,6.20,11.13,1.57,20.68,7.55,1.59,3.07,13.85,29.99, 3.50,0.48,0.00,0.39
Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp,5.73,13. 46,8.11,25.34,24.17,6.87,0.71,3.05,9.05,0.12,1.31, 0.00,2.08
Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp, 50.82,27.96,8.13,4.15,4.48,1.91,0.67,0.31,0.00,1.2 9,0.29,0.00,0.00
Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p,30.89,37.94,12.04,8.95,5.72,0.86,0.00,0.00,2.09, 0.47,0.11,0.93,0.00
Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp,9.37,7.95,10.92,42.20,18.56,0.01,8.67,0.00,0.0 0,1.62,0.41,0.28,0.00
African:Biaka00448_Africa_,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,22.17,77.20
Mongolic: DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp,9.52,17.47,0. 00,18.46,0.00,0.00,12.10,11.59,22.16,6.33,0.78,0.0 0,1.58

Distance: 203.6735% / 2.03673525
40.6 Mycenaean
15.6 Germanic
13.6 Phoenician
11.6 Armenian_Eastern_rome
9.4 Ptolemaic_Greek
7.4 Slavic
1.8 Asia_Minor

My father's distance is much better than mine.

Target: K13
Distance: 3.3542% / 3.35420030
46.0 Slavic
28.6 Mycenaean
19.2 Phoenician
6.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome
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My father

Target: Fatherk13
Distance: 1.7560% / 1.75603885
44.2 Slavic
25.0 Mycenaean
19.2 Germanic
8.8 Phoenician
2.8 Ptolemaic_Greek

Thought I'd give it a go even though I'm not Greek:

Target: SUPREEEEEME
Distance: 4.3817% / 4.38169452
35.6 Germanic
32.4 Phoenician
22.4 Mycenaean
9.6 Ptolemaic_Greek

double

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 322.7058% / 3.22705780
43.8 Slavic
20.4 Turkic_hordes
14.4 Phoenician
14.2 Mycenaean
7.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome

Very good distance

Target: Andre
Distance: 2.9566% / 2.95661443
63.4 Slavic
18.2 Mycenaean
12.6 Ptolemaic_Greek
5.8 Germanic

Target: Thracian
Distance: 182.1195% / 1.82119530
28.4 Mycenaean
23.6 Medes_Eastern_Rome
21.8 Germanic
16.2 Slavic
6.2 Mongolic
3.2 Ptolemaic_Greek
0.6 Turkic_hordes

Not enough Greeks.

Target: gixajo
Distance: 19.5643% / 19.56427411
65.8 Germanic
34.2 Mycenaean

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 18.4296% / 18.42964497
57.6 Germanic
41.8 Mycenaean
0.6 African

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 20.7550% / 20.75501670
69.8 Germanic
30.2 Mycenaean

Target: Dušan
Distance: 5.9706% / 5.97057628
78.2 Slavic
21.8 Mycenaean :)

Target: Kyp(Azeri+German)
Distance: 2.4662% / 2.46617287
35.8 Germanic
25.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome
18.6 Mycenaean
7.4 Armenian_Eastern_rome
6.8 Mongolic
6.2 Slavic

Target: luk
Distance: 13.8632% / 13.86316703
100.0 Slavic

Target: GeniKameni
Distance: 443.9522% / 4.43952211
64.4 Slavic
31.2 Mycenaean
4.0 Phoenician
0.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome

Target: catgeorge
Distance: 204.2054% / 2.04205369
40.4 Mycenaean
24.2 Germanic
16.8 Slavic
9.0 Phoenician
7.6 Armenian_Eastern_rome
2.0 Medes_Eastern_Rome

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 244.4522% / 2.44452160
76.6 Slavic
17.2 Mycenaean
5.2 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.8 Mongolic
0.2 African

Distance to: Nurzat
12.11417352 Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p
29.11540657 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
34.80566621 Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp
39.57091988 Mongolic: DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp
42.96860133 Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp
44.24864631 Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
45.42664196 Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp
47.67864931 Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp
56.35648765 Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
61.23077984 Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp
92.05583197 African:Biaka00448_Africa_

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
21.09542367 Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p
27.68836579 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
34.79090255 Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp
38.00182364 Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
42.36580933 Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp
43.19666654 Mongolic:DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp
46.76951464 Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp
47.73808438 Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp
52.32213107 Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
56.65786177 Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp
92.28093899 African:Biaka00448_Africa_


Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 426.1400% / 4.26139958
36.4 Germanic
35.0 Mycenaean
25.8 Slavic
2.2 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.6 Mongolic

Target: KrashNick
Distance: 287.6218% / 2.87621780
48.4 Mycenaean
31.4 Slavic
16.2 Germanic
4.0 Armenian_Eastern_rome

Target: Vasiliki
Distance: 343.4909% / 3.43490950 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.8 Mycenaean
31.4 Germanic
14.8 Slavic
6.0 Asia_Minor

I’m new to this, can someone explain my mother’s distance?

Target: Mother
Distance: 5.1119% / 5.11187977
59.5 Germanic
25.4 Mycenaean
12.4 Armenian_Eastern_rome
2.7 Ptolemaic_Greek

Target: Son
Distance: 1.5831% / 1.58314380
67.5 Germanic
19.3 Mycenaean
5.4 Slavic
4.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome
3.3 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.1 African

She’s half Dutch (South Holland) and half Heptanesian (Lefkas or Ithaka). And my father is 50% Danish, 25% Dutch and 25% German (Ruhr area).

So, shouldn’t her distance be similar to mine?

This post has my mother’s and my Eurogenes K13 oracle results, and our Dodecad K12b results using these Iron Age and Early Antiquity coordinates.

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Originally Posted by Plutarch

I’m new to this, can someone explain my mother’s distance?

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No idea. Try adding those to the model for her.

Ancient_Southern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Mik15,14.45,0,36 .91,0.55,41.8,6.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ancient_Crete:Greece_EBA_Pta08,9.49,0,35.59,5.30,4 3.72,5.89,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ancient_Northern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Log02,25.42,12.2 5,24.46,9.54,23.63,2.29,0,0,0,1,1.21,0,0.18
Ancient_Northern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Log04,27.02,17.2 3,18.01,13.6,18.4,1.55,0.08,0.5,0.83,2.35,0.3,0,0. 13
Celtic:France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.84 ,0,4.11,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
Germanic:E09613_Germany_Bell_Beaker_Augsburg_4165_ ybp,40.55,28.74,8.47,15.06,0.00,0.00,3.41,0.00,0.0 0,2.79,0.41,0.57,0.00
Paleobalkan:I2792_Croatia_Vucedol_4677_ybp,14.25,0 .00,48.33,0.00,37.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00

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Originally Posted by Voskos

No idea. Try adding those to the model for her.

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Thanks. Here’s the result:

Spoiler!

Target: Mother
Distance: 4.7093% / 4.70927649
37.6 Germanic
19.8 Celtic
18.3 Ancient_Northern_Greek
12.2 Phoenician
12.1 Armenian_Eastern_rome

The Celtic/Gaulish is interesting. The closest Germanic source, Alh10, seems to cause most of the distance for my mother. So I played around with other sources and ended up adding this one for her Germanic ancestry, which closed the distance by a lot:

Germanic_(NW255a):NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG _1476_ybp,52.54,25.61,7.98,6.28,0.00,5.74,0.00,0.0 0,0.07,0.00,0.37,0.00,1.41

Spoiler!

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.7946% / 1.79460367
58.7 Germanic_(NW255a)
25.3 Mycenaean
9.0 Armenian_Eastern_rome
4.1 Phoenician
2.0 Paleobalkan
0.9 Ancient_Southern_Greek

These two worked to bring out the Gaulish:

Gaulish_(NOR3-6): France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
Gaulish_(PEY53): France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.26,2.42,0 ,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0

Spoiler!

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.6001% / 1.60011036
40.1 Germanic_(NW255a)
22.2 Mycenaean
11.5 Gaulish_(NOR3-6)
10.9 Gaulish_(PEY53)
8.0 Phoenician
7.3 Armenian_Eastern_rome

But I think this one is cleaner than the two Gaulish sources:

Proto-Celtic_(BIS130): France_BA_BIS130,45.67,18.46,17.38,13.12,0.15,0.1, 0,0.91,0,1.49,1.98,0.76,0

Spoiler!

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.3698% / 1.36983684
42.3 Germanic_(NW255a)
22.4 Proto-Celtic_(BIS130)
20.4 Mycenaean
12.2 Phoenician
2.7 Armenian_Eastern_rome

I don’t really know what I’m doing, but the final result seems plausible and with a good distance. On MyHeritage, my mother’s Greek first cousin has a percentage of “North and West European” that more or less corresponds with the extra Celtic and Germanic (Venetian influence maybe). And I think the Levantine ancestry may come from the Mardaites, a military (not ethnic) group, like the French Foreign Legion, that recruited heavily in Lebanon before settling in Kefalonia and other parts of Greece.

Target: Rius
Distance: 536.8437% / 5.36843720
55.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome
27.8 Asia_Minor
16.8 Mycenaean

Target: OszkarsArmenianWife
Distance: 892.6382% / 8.92638202
40.8 Armenian_Eastern_rome
35.2 Phoenician
24.0 Medes_Eastern_Rome

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 280.0171% / 2.80017149
46.8 Slavic
45.2 Germanic
5.4 Mycenaean
2.6 Ptolemaic_Greek

Target: KenshiroK13(Italian)
Distance: 3.1029% / 3.10287427
59.5 Mycenaean
22.0 Germanic
14.0 Armenian_Eastern_rome
4.3 Slavic
0.2 African