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Has anyone had this done? Like all these it is not to be taken too seriously and similar to things like Mytrueancestry. This cost $19 so not too expensive. They compare your dna to ancient genomes. I used My Heritage raw data.
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If anyone has had it done post your info.
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MyTrueAncestry is rather accurate tbh and it's free.
Would you recommend genomelink? (I'm not sure if I should do it since it's paid).
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There is a sucker born every minute. I'm not paying for that crap. Americans are obsessed with being Irish and Viking but not me I'm not sucker chump !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon96
It's funny how people take G25, in general, here, so seriously when it was made by an amateur blogger but they don't take MyTrueAncestry seriously. Personally, I won't do it because it is like a death by a thousand cuts paying for all these DNA tests even if individually they are inexpensive it adds up.
I think people , if they want to do it, should compare it to MTA and G25 etc...
I'm not going to do it but I'll start the partial process to get a possible thing going here :
G25 ancient sheet top 4 matches :
Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02307901 VK2020_DNK_Sealand_EVA:VK70 (viking Denmark )
0.02335702 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA:VK256
0.02437411 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA:VK260
0.02509043 VK2020_DNK_Langeland_VA:VK285
Distance to: VK2020_DNK_Sealand_EVA:VK70
0.02917877 Norwegian
0.03128580 Danish
0.03217823 Icelandic
0.03294285 Dutch
MyTrueAncestry for the win :
Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.724)
Celt + Saxon (3.374)
Celt + Frank (3.492)
Saxon + Frank (3.692)
Viking Danish + Celt (4.03)
Saxon (4.112)
Viking Danish (5.587)
Celt (6.501)
Frank (6.603)
Viking Norwegian (7.237)
1. Southwest_English (4.205) (England as in Angleland or Angland or Angle vikings from Denmark)
2. Southeast_English (4.275)
3. North_Dutch (4.390)
4. Danish (4.722)
5. West_Scottish (4.930)
0%, because my Northern French ancestors are not English or whatever "Anglo-saxon" population.
MyTrueAncestry is not free if you want to see all your matches or have a higher amount of matches etc. These are all on the novelty scale. Not really to be taken seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon96
I think some of the companies should offer deep ancestry for people. For people of just one ethnicity it means not a lot now to get a dna test. Tests might be informative for people that have not much idea of their ancestry or are from multiple ancestries but for people that are of one ethnicity they are not worth doing. The best thing about the tests is having your raw data.
Mytrueancestry isn't free it is about £20 or so then once in you have upgrade to see deeper and more matches.
It is interesting when you get a 96% match to a grave in Iceland from 980, or discovering I was related to Bishop Peder Winstrup, Philip Calvert, someone from a silver mine in Sweden and one of Erik's settlers in Greenland.....:confused:
According to Mytrueancestry I'm a Norwegian Viking, Celt, Alemmani, Saxon, Longobard...:confused:
Knowing this stuff from here you take it all with a pinch of salt but some people must take this almost literally, emphasising one particular ancedent against thousands of others from 1000 years ago. I can imagine reinactment societies starting up in rural Missouri with people dressing up based on matches from Mytrueancestry and other websites.
Dna stuff is a big business now it seems
This is exactly what I mean, a lot of people will believe this and start creating their own history/mythos, declaring it excitedly at dinner parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rędwald
The film Braveheart all started when Randall Wallace researched his surname thinking he could be related to the great Scottish hero. Of course he wasn't and it is not an uncommon name at all,
Yes I have MyTrueAncestry as well and can see my top 150 matches because I've paid for it. I don't take it as gospel but just find the ancient genomes interesting. My interest now is with the ancient stuff. I wish there was more genomes from Ireland. Would love to have some Gaels pre-Viking etc. I'd love if they had a Norman for example. Hopefully more studies will hit the press this year. Anyway it's all harmless and if people are interested it is their money and their choice. I think the commercial companies should offer something when more genomes are available. There is a lot of Viking genomes now but still missing genomes especially from Ireland. That most probably is because Trinity College, Dublin have all the genomes and aren't releasing much of them to the public until studies are published.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davystayn
Is Mytrueancestry worth the upgrades? I'm on Footman level at the moment, guess it gives you enough of a carrot to keeping wanting to upgrade,
NO. Don't waste your money. It's all nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davystayn
This company currently does not accept the FTDNA file which is mine. In MTA I do get tons of match with viking and at the moment 2 Deep Dives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQD...j7CUWooWeazaz_
As a kid I was crazy about this series, I imagined it was me and my father; although maybe it was more about how I would have liked my father to have been in terms of relationships and also in those childhood years in the village both my girlfriend and my lover were blue-eyed blonde girls like viky's friend. For that reason the Vikings is a singular theme for me, I never imagined I would get them of course.
That's what I can tell you so far.
Another scam.
Almost everyone in one of the FB groups I'm in scored the same viking score, so I wouldn't take it seriously, lol.
I have 32 deepdives with different Vikings so 2 is quite low. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Gallop
It's not meant to be taken seriously. Most people appear to get a percentage in the 60s from what I've seen. I've only seen two that were on Anthrogenica one was 65 and the other 67%. It would be interesting to see what other's get.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfamousAngel99
Tell that to the people who are taking it seriously...lol. A lot of people are mad and asking for a refund because everyone is getting the same results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
A large amount of Viking DNA is mixed from Gaelic Celts, Slavs etc.. My issue is that they took all the data and said right that is it, the Scandinavian Viking, that is the British Viking.
You have to do some weeding. For example comparing the Early Viking Era to the Iron Age before it and going that is a group they are a bit different to the later Viking Era.
I don't trust it when an Irish person scores high Viking.
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https://i.postimg.cc/sfGmFj5Z/vik1.png
What I expected. Probably going to refund this, it's rather expensive for what you get.
So Richmondbread has more Pocahontas % than you have Viking %. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Rędwald
Are you behind this one too, Peterski Der Betrüger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
I mean it obviously means nothing, but it's kind of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
I know I have ancestors who have "Viking %" and were "Viking" but personally I do not. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Not a single drop of northern blood
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Originally Posted by Gallop
The same that you, but in my case with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi1OzJkOREg
- Your Viking Index 68%
- You are in 90% percentile compared with all Genomelink users
- 1st match Scandinavian Viking
- 2nd match Finnish Viking
- 3d match Slavic Viking
- 4th match British Viking
As a Germanic patriot you should be happy that these companies "make everyone Germanic", no ??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Token
Trying yo be a spoilsport? No, because I do it to give you a chance. And you use it every time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...R5CiA&usqp=CAUQuote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
A measly 10 per cent—according to Genomelink, anyway.
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You have Scandinavian Viking as a part of your ancestors
Your Viking Index
10%
You are in 10% percentile compared with all Genomelink users
https://genomelink.io/reports/viking/result/Quote:
The “Viking Index” indicates your own relationship to the ancient people of Scandinavia who lived 1,000 years ago, and spread out across the world in a series of migrations and raids. Our index is generated using ancient DNA from the period of the Vikings, and measures the genetic differences between you, and these people who died more than 1,000 years ago in Sweden.
If you are 100% Viking that means you are genetically the same as the ancient people, though the reality is that because of migration into Scandinavia since the Viking period very few people hit this metric.
The “Viking index” measures not only the relationship to these ancient people, but reflects the reality that peoples have mixed and merged since the Viking Age. Modern Scandinavians descend mostly of these people, but also have ancestry from all the groups the Vikings interacted with.
Hunter-gatherers 1%
First Farmers 8%
Steppe pastoralists 23%
Indigenous Americans 3%
West African 4%
East Asian 9%
South Asian 52%
https://genomelink.io/reports/ancestry/result/Quote:
South Asians emerge from the mixing of the people of western and southeast Eurasia 5,000 years ago. While their paternal ancestors are often more related to peoples to the west, their maternal ancestors are more like peoples to the east. The diversity of South Asians, 25% of humanity, is the outcome of recent mixing, and prefigures our modern world.
South Asians exhibit massive physical, culture, and linguistic diversity. From the Indo-Aryan peoples of the north and west, some of whom are light-skinned and light-eyed, to the Dravidian peoples of the south, small and dark-skinned. All emerge out of the same process and mixture.
These connections mean that South Asian ancestry and heritage is found far outside of modern South Asia. From closely related to Iranians, to Roma groups in Europe which descend from South Asian nomads.
Going back thousands of years many of the ancestors of South Asians and Europeans are shared, speaking Indo-European languages, and expanding out of the steppe. This shared ancestry often results in Europeans registering “South Asian” ancestry and the inverse
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4,200 years ago there was a massive climatic shock across Eurasia. Drought spread across the land. This event resulted in the fall of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, the overthrow of the Mesopotamia dynasty of Sargon of Akkad, and perhaps, the first step in the collapse of the cities of the Indus Valley Civilization. For the two former civilizations, we have actual texts and historical documents. For the third, we have archaeology. We do not know what they called themselves, though the Mesopotamians seem to have called them the Meluhhans. Their civilization included most of modern Pakistan and parts of the northwest India. This civilization was anchored by two great cities: Mohenjo Daro and Harappa.
After 2000 BC, this civilization went into decline. The cities disappeared. Human society in these regions devolved to small-scale villages.
We do not know what language the Meluhhans spoke, but we do know a little about their genes. Their ancestors had occupied the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau. They may have developed farming independently, with some inspiration from their cousins to the west. They expanded eastward into the Indus River Basin. Over 5,000 years ago, the Meluhhans mixed with hunter-gatherers moving north and west - people distantly related to the indigenous people of Southeast Asia. The resulting population was a synthesis of west and east, though perhaps with slightly more western heritage.
Today, this ancestral component is the largest fraction in India. It is most prominent in Dravidian speaking groups of the south, who seem to have arisen through the mixture of people who migrated from this society and indigenous hunter-gatherer groups.
While the north of the subcontinent has been washed over by outsiders - Aryans, Huns, and Turks - the south has been insulated from war and exposed to trade. Roman colonies and Roman coins were numerous along the southern coast. This may have shielded this region from the shock of Islamic invasions and allowed great temples to be built around the southern tip of the subcontinent.
DNA analysis still has limitations, even more so here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Token
They now have a new category:
Claiming to be "backed by science":Quote:
Hunter VS Farmer
Our “Admixture” analysis indicates how much ancient DNA you have. Are you more Farmers or Hunter-gatherers?
https://genomelink.io/reports/hunter-vs-farmer/Quote:
Backed by science
Razib Khan
Razib Khan is a geneticist and public intellectual who has worked in personal genomics in the private sector. have written for publications that include The New York Times, MIT Technology Review, City Journal, National Review & The Guardian, on a broad range of topics.
Not sure if backed by science or by Razib Khan
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As is correctly pointed out here, "For this to even be valid you would need MASSIVE sample sizes from diverse communities, and census data based on caste proportion down to subcaste."Quote:
Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel
https://archive.is/qEO3w#selection-1237.0-1257.31Quote:
HOW ACCURATE IS GEDMATCH? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH CALCULATOR TO USE FOR A MORE ACCURATE POPULATION COMPARISON? I’M CONFLICTED SINCE GEDMATCH, 23ANDME, FTDNA, AND GENOMELINK HAVE GIVEN ME DIFFERENT RESULTS.
Results are not apples to apples
As this anthrogenica forum user also points out, "I personally have never been a fan of the South Indian component coz it's so vague - lumps up AASI and ancient West and East Eurasian components."Quote:
To complicate matters 1% S Asian for a European is not the same as 1% S Asian for a W Asian. Whereas the 1% S Asian for a European could translate to 6% total S Asian, if the European references have a 5% S Asian base, the 1% S Asian showing up in a result say for a Kurd or Iranian 23andMe subject could translate to a 16% TOTAL S Asian, since the Middle Eastern references, if they are Iranians, could already have a 15% S Asian base. Therefore, 1% S Asian for a northern European would not be equal to 1% S Asian for say an Iranian or Kurd.
G25 for the win :
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962356
42.8 England_IA (England Iron Age Celtics)
32.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian (Icelandic Viking Germanic before the Christian age which was more Germanic less celtic in Iceland)
25.2 SVK_Poprad_MA (Germanic Vandal invader of Slovakia middle ages)
^ 32.0 percent Viking more or less
IllustrativeDNA individual samples :
Fit: 1.855
Germanic Scandinavian (Iron Age) – VK390 34.1%
Germanic Visigoth invader (Iberia) – I12163 27.6%
Insular Celt (Roman period) – S14491 38.3%
^34.1% Viking
GEDmatch is outdated and while G25 is no longer cutting edge is better than GEDmatch for layman purposes. IllustrativeDNA is based on G25.Quote:
Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel
Razib CONmanQuote:
Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel
Fuck Razib man IllustrativeDNA has farmer vs HG (Hunter Gatherer) too :
Anatolian Neolithic Farmer
45.8%
European Hunter-Gatherer
46.6%
Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer
7.6%
I always said genomelink is like the poor man's inferior version of sequencing.com
Sequencing.com has the best general one I did its like as if 23andme or AncestryDNA were not run by retards :
100% European :
British or Irish 71%
French or German 18%
Broadly NorthWest European 8%
East European or Russian 3% (probably some slavshit mixed in with my mainland continental Germanic admixture like Prussian residue or something)
They have an ancient DNA one too for mapping purposes etc...
Great Post! The more I think about it the more I like this description: "genomelink is like the poor man's inferior version of sequencing.com" :thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond007
I get the feeling GEDmatch is only good for DNA Matches and Archaic DNA Matches especially as those free admixture calculators can be incomplete, inaccurate, inconsistent, outdated, or simply incorrect. The whole site looks and feels outdated, and they're only good for making comparisons and even then Genoplot does a much better job than GEDmatch.
ILLUSTRATIVE DNA, based in Tallinn, Estonia, also has the most relevant AASI (Ancient Ancestral South Indian) component category unlike those Genoplot and GEDmatch calculators. :picard1::picard1::picard2::thumb001:
And GenePlaza is also excellent for Ancestry and Bronze Age DNA Tests.
You can read a complete discussion on this 'AASI' admixture here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/aasi%20%20/, https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/AASI/
The bottom line is: There is no free lunch. You gotta pay.
See my review of Sequencing:
Best Of The Best. Must Have 30x WGS Kit. Top-Notch Genomics Company And Customer Service
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This one from DNAGenics is probably more reliable, at least it shows relevant samples.
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