I m really Tuscan and Italian by default
23andme didn t detect any extra Italian genes not even in trace ancestry
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I m really Tuscan and Italian by default
23andme didn t detect any extra Italian genes not even in trace ancestry
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https://i.postimg.cc/qhX0sFYx/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
here my ancient and modern population similarity:
https://i.postimg.cc/jLy9Lfpy/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/CZvMXXJM/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
Modern Population similarity map and list
Im Tuscan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Post your Gedmatch, ragazza. We've seen your 23andme and it doesn't say much.
Im a bit scared for gedmatch.. I know they use it to track murderers and criminals.. I have nothing to hide
But its quite creepy
but i will do It.. I just have to calm myself
Cool stuff!
Don't worry about Gedmatch, just download and use this program offline! Made by Lukasz Macuga.
https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/
It has the same calculators.
Anyway.. The possible match with Sicily on 23andme map seems real.. By the PC plot Map im a Tuscan who tends slightky to sicilians
My mtDNA is H5b
On 23andme they put this image of this Ava who lived in Scotland, who they thought was red haired but instead by genetics they discovered she was dark haired and with a skin tone the same of southern Europe... Anyway she was just H5.. I'm H5b
H5b is found at high frequencies along the Caucasus Mountains
https://i.postimg.cc/mz4ffvp2/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
According to to me research I did online H mtdna give a slight then average predisposition to Alzheimer disease
Some Wikipedia info on mtdna H5
H5 has been dated to around 11,500 BP (9500 BC). It appears to be most frequent and diverse in the Western Caucasus, so an origin there has been suggested, while its subclade H5a appears European. However samples of mtDNA with T16304C in the HVR1 region have been found in four individuals of around 6800 BC from the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B site of Tell Halula, Syria, suggesting that H5 may have arrived in the Caucasus with farmers from the Near East
She's a Bell Beaker so she shouldn't really be dark skinned. HGs were but Bell Beakers should be pretty similar to modern day Isles populations. H is the most common mtdna in Europe today.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Anyway great results. 23&Me appear to be making everyone 100% these days. :)
Hopefully its not shocking to you that you are Italian.
the whole story of Ava from 23andmeQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
https://i.postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
she was from what they thought was an immigrant family from continental Europe (according to her autosomes)
the whole story of Ava from 23andmeQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
https://i.postimg.cc/bG4hbtT8/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
she was from what they thought was an immigrant family from continental Europe (according to her autosomes)
Thanks for that. All the Bell Beakers came from the Continent. They were very northern genetically but Yamnaya were darker skinned as well. Bell Beakers though are much closer in time and I know Rathlin carried the genes for blue eyes, had lighter hair and were lactose tolerant so it is strange Ava is so different. Maybe some Bell Beakers were lactose intolerant and some not.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Post Eurogenes K13, K15, K36 and Dodecad K12b for starters. These are the most important ones in your case.
Cool results. Pureblood.
I hoped in at least something more varied like finding other ancestry in trace results but nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
the result are simple, at least I'm having fun in decoding my snips for traits and medical conditions by finding online references and studies
I'm the most similar to this Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna mummy
https://i.postimg.cc/TLBbC4pK/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
All of my ancient ancestors
https://i.postimg.cc/HJ6MqLP8/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
ah a true imperial
Complimenti Gica. How are you doing as far as neanderthal variants go? since you are 100% tuscan and tuscans have been shown to carry more neanderthal genes.
I m very Neanderthal 81% more than 23me usersQuote:
Originally Posted by gıulıoımpa
that means about 2% of my whole genome
https://i.postimg.cc/w1yf0Sfp/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/F7g3mGYL/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
Neanderthals gave my my crave for sweet food
I have two copies in two genes loci for that (in a way it's true)
As well as eating less frequently leaves (true especially when I was a child.. I hate vegetables)
And not feeling angry when hungry (in a way it's true)
https://i.postimg.cc/bG8yxc86/Screen...oid-chrome.jpg
Congrats on being pure spaghetti :)
My regional meal is more tortelli and PiciQuote:
Originally Posted by Rĉdwald
so my Eurogenes k13
what does that mean?
https://i.postimg.cc/f3R8VCkV/K13-Eurogenes.png
North Atlantic 25.12
West Med 23.11
East Med 22.61
West Asian 13.62
Baltic 8.62
North East African 0.47
East Asian 0.02 (finally something unexpected, some east asian)
Distance to: GiCoQuote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
3.67533672 Italian_Umbria
3.74415545 Italian_Lazio
3.79946049 Italian_Marche
4.56786602 Italian
4.84748388 Italian_Romagna
6.08444739 Italian_Tuscan
7.10576526 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.10019136 Italian_Abruzzo
8.12672751 Italian_Emilia
8.18461361 Italian_Basilicata
8.72733636 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.78898743 Italian_Molise
8.97667533 France_Corsica
9.03707364 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.23761333 Italian_Liguria
9.35327215 Italian_Apulia
9.89398807 Albanian_Tosk
10.00649789 Greek_Northeast
10.03972111 Greek_Cyclades
10.07101782 Greek_Athens
10.10434560 Italian_Sicily
10.22505379 Greek_Thessaly
10.23968261 Albanian
10.39231928 Greek_Central
10.44587000 Greek
Closest populations according to your k13 results.
Click "Oracle" right below the values and copy that text.Quote:
Originally Posted by GiCa
Looks like you’re “actually” Umbrian.
I’m kidding, of course.
Kavkaz is power :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 1.5130% / 1.51299316 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.1 Italian_Lazio
17.7 Italian_Umbria
7.6 Ossetian
5.0 French_Basque
1.6 Dai
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 2.1170% / 2.11696216 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.0 Italian_Umbria
12.4 Italian_Lazio
6.0 Ossetian
1.6 Dai
She is pretty Southern actually. I mean unmistakably Italian. Despite what Samnium and others would say most Italians I've seen scored something along those lines. 20% East Med is normal even in Lombardia.Quote:
Originally Posted by CordedWhelp
Congrats on your results GiCa! Your autosomal results are typical central Italian, as expected.
GiCa, post Euro K15, K36 and Dodecad K12b.
Eurogenes K15
Atlantic 21.84
East Med 21.03
West Med 17.71
West Asian 12.37
North Sea 11.83
Baltic 6.11
Eastern Euro 2.39
Red Sea 4.8
South East Asian 1.51
North East African 0.38
the South East Asian is a big surprise
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 4.673073
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.119574
3 West_Sicilian @ 7.693697
4 North_Italian @ 10.485189
5 Greek @ 10.692674
6 East_Sicilian @ 11.187804
7 Central_Greek @ 11.413494
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 12.374193
9 South_Italian @ 12.912933
10 Ashkenazi @ 13.821038
11 Bulgarian @ 15.419341
12 Romanian @ 17.101929
13 Italian_Jewish @ 17.218657
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 17.662846
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.757248
16 Spanish_Extremadura @ 17.972984
17 Spanish_Murcia @ 18.220137
18 Algerian_Jewish @ 18.798378
19 Portuguese @ 18.831205
20 Spanish_Valencia @ 19.377663
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% North_Italian @ 3.995090
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.275135
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Italian @ 2.153412
2 Assyrian + South_Italian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.159718
3 Ashkenazi + French_Basque + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Italian @ 2.210226
4 Assyrian + Central_Greek + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.234190
5 Assyrian + East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.236073
6 Assyrian + French_Basque + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.247164
7 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.275135
the Eurohenes K36 is very dispersive, anyway here the results:
Italian 29.45
Iberian 17.65
Near_Eastern 7.06
North_Sea 6.41
Armenian 5.8
French 5.75
Arabian 5.7
East_Central_Euro 4.98
North_Caucasian 3.99
East_Balkan 3.94
East_Med 3.92
West_Med 2.14
West_Caucasian 1.8
South_Chinese 0.76
Basque 0.6
I told you to click Oracle... You probably just don't like me or you're difficult to deal with, so I'll stop wasting my time on you.
Dodecad K12b Oracle
1 Atlantic_Med 34.79
2 Caucasus 24.23
3 North_European 19.43
4 Southwest_Asian 9.81
5 Gedrosia 8.45
6 East_African 1.27
7 Southeast_Asian 1.06
8 Northwest_African 0.95
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.66
2 TSI30 (Metspalu) 6.92
3 Tuscan (HGDP) 7.81
4 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.39
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 8.8
6 North_Italian (HGDP) 10.58
7 Greek (Dodecad) 14.23
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.34
9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.6
10 Baleares (1000Genomes) 17.77
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.99
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.28
13 Galicia (1000Genomes) 18.68
14 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 18.96
15 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.21
16 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.46
17 Romanians (Behar) 19.48
18 Portuguese (Dodecad) 19.57
19 Murcia (1000Genomes) 19.91
20 Canarias (1000Genomes) 20.15
1 80.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.63
2 81% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 19% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.75
3 79.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.06
4 81.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.12
5 69.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.23
6 53.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 46.2% French (HGDP) @ 3.23
7 69.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.1% British (Dodecad) @ 3.26
8 83.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.39
9 70.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.39
10 84.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 3.45
11 63% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 37% French (HGDP) @ 3.46
12 71.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.46
13 82% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 18% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
14 60.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.49
15 70.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.51
16 83.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 3.52
17 68.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 31.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.57
18 84.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.6
19 61.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.6% British (Dodecad) @ 3.64
20 64.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 35.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 3.65
I think you missed a couple components in the screenshot. This is what I get including Red_Sea and East_Asian (which is 2 not 0.02):Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Distance to: GiCa
4.10298672 Italian_Umbria
4.15045781 Italian_Lazio
4.22860497 Italian_Marche
4.89430281 Italian
5.10996086 Italian_Romagna
6.36126560 Italian_Tuscan
7.01320897 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.27670828 Italian_Abruzzo
8.31459560 Italian_Emilia
8.40658670 Italian_Basilicata
8.86241502 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.90980920 Italian_Molise
9.15792007 France_Corsica
9.19347051 Greek_West_Macedonia
9.38223321 Italian_Liguria
9.56054915 Italian_Apulia
10.02717308 Albanian_Tosk
10.12612463 Greek_Cyclades
10.15381702 Greek_Northeast
10.17663009 Greek_Athens
10.23672799 Italian_Sicily
10.34250091 Greek_Thessaly
10.37987958 Albanian
10.52860390 Greek_Central
10.57023179 Greek
Target: GiCa
Distance: 0.5464% / 0.54639951
34.3 Italian_Romagna
18.0 Greek_Chios
17.5 French_Basque
9.6 Laz
5.0 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
4.9 Italian_Aosta_Valley
3.7 Greek_Western-Thrace
3.4 Saudi
1.5 Dai
1.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.6 Italian_Marche
0.3 Yemenite_Jewish
Target: GiCa
Distance: 1.3017% / 1.30169647 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.6 Italian_Lazio
26.9 Italian_Umbria
8.3 Ossetian
5.8 French_Basque
3.0 Moroccan
1.4 Dai
A southern-shifted Tuscan but still obviously central Italian.
Updated Dodecad
Code:GiCa(Italian),8.45,0,0.95,1.06,34.79,19.43,0,1.27,9.81,0,24.23,0
Distance to: GiCa(Italian)
4.56119502 Italian_Romagna
4.66330355 Italian_Tuscany
5.69891218 Italian_Emilia
5.95577401 Italian_Marche
6.21324392 Italian_Lazio
6.57912608 Italian_Liguria
7.41369004 French_Corsica
8.93123732 Italian_Piedmont
9.26780449 Italian_Lombardy
9.72858160 Italian_Veneto
11.03159100 Greek_Thessaly
11.07990523 Greek_Thrace
11.09064921 Italian_Abruzzo
11.09805839 Albanian_Kosovo
11.12357856 Albanian
11.12504382 Italian_Friuli_VG
12.13591777 Greek_Central
12.35714368 Greek_Peloponnese
12.74289459 Swiss_Italian
12.78726710 Greek_Thessaloniki
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 1.7387% / 1.73871973 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.2 Italian_Tuscany
13.6 French_Corsica
5.1 Balochi
1.9 Saudi
1.4 Somali
0.8 Dai
Target: GiCa(Italian)
Distance: 2.1233% / 2.12332925 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.4 Italian_Tuscany
4.9 Balochi
2.0 Ethiopian
1.7 Yemenite_mixed