It seems like many people here are ignorant about the founders of Humanity (J2 super-race) so I found this online which can educate. Open in new tab and zoom if it is not readable
https://i.ibb.co/5jDvgV0/Theseedingofcivilization.png
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It seems like many people here are ignorant about the founders of Humanity (J2 super-race) so I found this online which can educate. Open in new tab and zoom if it is not readable
https://i.ibb.co/5jDvgV0/Theseedingofcivilization.png
Mashallah, from Roman empire to the Turkic kaghanates, J2 is the father of all great civilizations.
Only paternal line matters dadash
R1b > J2
They forgot about J2 in Mycenaean/Helladic Greece.
As an I1 and honorable brother of J haplo we can grant you Dhimmi status in the Khalifa as opposed to other haplos which will be genocided such as R1Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutone
R1b are useful servants to facilitate the expansion of J2 rule, why notQuote:
Originally Posted by IndoEuropeanR1b
But it is indeed a very interesting haplogroup. It must be emerged somewhere between Anatolia, Levante, Caucasus and Iran but it is omnipresent in who Eurasia.
Proud to be J2. ;)
Yes, thankfully we took pity on humanity and decided to give out our civilization.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
I hate all haplogroups except for my E brothers.
Since E were our loyal compatriots during Roman and Sumerian days it is unfortunate for you to have this opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Adamm
It becomes obvious that only a unique and gifted haplo can have such a position. In the face of invasions by R1 baboons, J2 placed itself in a dominant position amongst their ranks and penetrated it accordingly. Most likely we can see that Steppe invasions historically are a result of R1 slave-soldiers commanded by a J2 elite. Through this event, wherever they went we commanded. And we placed ourselves accordingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aritasi-v3.png
https://i.imgur.com/QlqCNsp.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Ancient Spartans were(well still are) J2a. So if it’s from the steppe then they were Indo-European speakers
Notice that it is located in Manchuria. Most likely because Qing dynasty elite was J2. Yet another proofQuote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
Concept of Steppe is irrelevant in this scenario. What is in question is the J2 and the non-J2's. Spartan J2 is just an example of how the elite J2 dominance occursQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick
How can you tell that Sumerians were mostly J2 Y-DNA?
It was suggested by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. And Sumer is one of the oldest civilizations, following the fact of Civilization = J2 presence at elite level we can determine that they had J2.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
I never realized until now how much J2 was in East Asia/SE Asia
Interestingly,there is a correlation between peoples with J2 origin and mountainous regions.You can find such haplogroups in Mongolian-Manchurian groups also because that is result of Turkic admixture in East Asian nomads and sedentar groups.
J1 and J2 are present in Southern Europe. The reason why it's also present in Mesopotamia is because our ancestors lived there, and they built the first human civilization, Sumeria.
Dudley Buxton and Talbot Rice, two British researchers, conducted a study on the human remains found at Kish.
"The investigations of Sir Arthur Keith on the skulls from 'Ubaid, near Ur, definitely prove the Sumerians to belong to the long-headed races, and Dr. Buxton finds two long-headed races in the palace skulls at Kish, which he designates as Eurafrican and Mediterranean."
Eurafrican is the Atlanto-Mediterranid type found all across Southern Europe.
What the study found is that Sumerians were Europids generally and Mediterranids specifically.
(See: Report on the Human Remains Found at Kish, L. H. Dudley Buxton and D. Talbot Rice)
So it was merely a guess by ZallouaWells 2004 and al-Zaheri 2003. I was just curious how you could tell that Sumerians were of J2 haplotype when no DNA analysis was done on their skeletal remains which were many, or at least not published.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Yes, the first sons were Sumerian J2’s. Other haplos are basically our deformed children. Well, except maybe those in the broader IJ family.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleDarkAge
It’s a logical assumption considering all civilization was built by J2s (thus including Sumeria, which is in a logical position for the J2 origin both chronologically and geographically).Quote:
Originally Posted by chinshen
https://i.imgur.com/7S6ZtFC.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by CordedWhelp
These so called turanics are one of the many children of our J2 Sumerian super-race. But not all of it is relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
Whats your theory for Vietnam/Cambodia? I have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Quite simplyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hektor12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinh_D...%C6%B0%C6%A1ng
This man is the supposed creator and ancestor of the Vietnamese.
But he himself is descended from this man:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shennong
"Shennong taught humans the use of the plow, aspects of basic agriculture, and the use of medicinal plants"
Basically, a J2 who migrated to the region (Sumeria->Indian Ocean route?)by spreading agriculture and civilization. This is how he is depicted:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...03_%282%29.jpg
Not very Han looking. Those J2 in Indochina are likely his descendants.
NahQuote:
Originally Posted by IndoEuropeanR1b
But also
E-V13>>>>>R1a
Albanians are outbreeding your cuck slav race in a blink of an eye
edit: wrong thread xd
I'm not a slav, I'm germanic and insular celtic. I like E-V13, Hitler was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadorian
This R1 is not amused.
Rethel, we must gather the Horde and discuss with the Elders how we shall defend R1 from J2 maniacs!
The Age of R1 is over... The time of the J2, has come (again)Quote:
Originally Posted by CordedWhelp
Why this thread has allready almost 5 /five/ (sic!) pages and almost 40 /forty/ (sic!) posts?!?!?! :picard1:
Nice haplogroup.
Simply discussing the world Overlords and space conquerors (J2) not an R1 farmers concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel
Majority of Anatolian Turks are J2A