Illustrative DNA new modern breakdown

Just to remind you guys, there is a new Report there. Here are my results:

My results with my WGS combined kit coordinates:

Southeast Europe
100.0%
Balkan Slav
57.8%
Croat (Bosnia)
44.0%
Bulgarian
13.8%
Mainland Greece
19.6%
Greek (Peloponnese Argolis)
19.6%
Balkan Turkish
13.4%
Turkish (Rumeli)
13.4%
Romania
9.2%
Romanian
9.2%


Mom's results with 23andme coordinates:

Southeast Europe
100.0%
Balkan Slav
69.6%
Serb (Bosnia)
45.8%
Croat (Bosnia)
23.8%
Balkan Turkish
22.6%
Turkish (Rumeli)
22.6%
Aegean Sea
7.8%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria-Samos)
7.8%


Dad's results with 23andme coordinates:

Southeast Europe
100.0%
Balkan Slav
50.2%
Serb (Croatia)
50.2%
Balkan Turkish
25.2%
Turkish (Deliorman)
25.2%
Mainland Greece
24.6%
Greek (Epirus)
24.6%

Reasonable modeling, not mind-blowingly good or anything.


My mother (German, minor English):
Northwest Europe
66.8%
Brittany
22.4%
Breton (Ille-et-Vilaine Rennes)
22.4%
French (Oïl)
44.4%
French (Normandy Eure)
20.8%
French (Hauts-de-France Somme)
11.2%
French (Normandy Seine-Maritime)
8.0%
French (Grand Est Ardennes)
4.4%
Central Europe
24.4%
Germany
24.4%
German (Bavaria)
24.4%
West Europe
8.8%
French (Oïl)
8.8%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Haute-Saone)
8.8%


My Father (Hungarian), based on coordinates simulated by Kaspias:
East-Central Europe
83.0%
Hungary
83.0%
Hungarian
83.0%
Southeast Europe
9.6%
Balkan Turkish
9.6%
Turkish (Rumeli)
9.6%
Central Asia
7.4%
Tajik
7.4%
Tajik (Kulob)
7.4%


Me:
Northwest Europe
56.4%
Scandinavia
35.4%
Norwegian (Bergen)
35.4%
French (Oïl)
21.0%
French (Hauts-de-France Somme)
21.0%
Southeast Europe
40.2%
Balkan Slav
27.4%
Serb (Bosnia)
14.2%
Bosniak
12.0%
Croat (Bosnia)
1.2%
Mainland Greece
11.4%
Greek (Epirus)
11.4%
Balkan Turkish
1.4%
Turkish (Rumeli)
1.4%
South Asia
3.4%
Indian Subcontinent
3.4%
Punjabi Arain (India)
3.4%

Eh I got this, seems it just picks the population groups that it can mix to match you closest. Balkan Turk for me makes sense but the other matches not really, I don't have any relatives outside of Marmara region of Turkey for atleast four generations, so the Isparta result doesn't really add up. My grandmother was atleast half-circassian so the Caucasus connection makes sense, but her circassian ancestry as far as I know traces to the Sochi region (who are extinct today), Tabasaran people are unrelated. The Iberian Roma result makes no sense at all, lol. How do you guys get to see these expanded statistics? All I get is a image.
https://i.gyazo.com/7a206a2d82c517da...551eb9b95e.png

Southwest Europe 100.0%

Spanish 100.0%

Castilian (Castile and Leon) 58.4%
Castilian (Castilla-La Mancha) 28.4%
Castilian (Castile and Leon Soria)13.2%


Southwest Europe 98.6%

Spanish 98.6%

Galician (Galicia) 50.4%
Castilian (Castile and Leon Soria) 24.8%
Catalan (Baleares Menorca) 23.4%
Sub-Saharan African 1.4%
Khoisan 1.4%
San (Ju Hoan) 1.4%


https://www.aryse.org/wp-content/upl..._trafalgar.jpg

You don't know who you are talking to :cool:

They just updated mine

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...022Modern.jpeg

Si es que no puedo hablar en alto porque sube el pan, los andaluces somos de donde nos da la gana. Ahora queda la actualización del de mi padre...

https://i.ibb.co/kcVsmby/illustrativemodern.png

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Originally Posted by XT93

I don't have any relatives outside of Marmara region of Turkey for atleast four generations, so the Isparta result doesn't really add up.

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Isparta is very Central-Anatolian related. Western Pontus, from Giresun all the way to Marmara, was populated heavily by Cappadocians/Central Anatolians, according to Medieval Byzantine accords. It makes sense you'd score it since you are from that region.

*double post*

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Originally Posted by eupator

Isparta is very Central-Anatolian related. Western Pontus, from Giresun all the way to Marmara, was populated heavily by Cappadocians/Central Anatolians, according to Medieval Byzantine accords. It makes sense you'd score it since you are from that region.

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Wouldn't this imply a large historical migration towards the Marmara? I know modern day Marmara is very mixed since everyone is moving there, including kurds. My Grandmother who has Anatolian roots was from Gölyazi in Bursa and her lineage traces to that area for generations. While my other grandmother was half-circassian or more from Istanbul, I think she was Istanbul Turk the other half. Both grandfather sides came from Balkan but one of them is born there just because his father moved there for the military academy (From Bursa). It's why I expected the Anatolian Turkish matches would be more connected to the Northwest since I don't really have any relatives outside of this area. I also am getting more Balkan Turk than expected and I have no idea where the Indian stuff comes from, other calculators like k12 and k13 couldn't pick it up.

Seems the results just updated
https://i.gyazo.com/715757a7548942a6...a276e1b5da.png

https://i.imgur.com/KIkkqej.png

IMHO, G25 moderns is utterly lackluster, especially the curated illustrativedna version, compared to Davidski's Celtic vs Germanic coordinates :

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/...ic-europe.html

However, since not everybody can be northwestern European so I totally understand the popularity of G25 but even the English average, for CvG, is somewhat too celtic shifted. Call me paranoid but there might be some anti-English bias in some of these tools but I doubt the English are the only nation suffering from bias here.

Fit: 1.245 (Good)

East Europe
52.0%
East Slavic
43.4%
Ukrainian (Zhytomyr)
42.6%
Russian (Leshukonsky)
0.4%
Russian (Belgorod)
0.4%

Baltic
8.6%
Lithuanian (East Aukstaitija)
8.6%

Baltic Finnic
27.0%
Russia
27.0%
Ingrian
27.0%

???
West Europe
15.6%
French (Oïl)
6.2%
French (Centre-Val de Loire Indre)
6.2%
French (Arpitan)
9.4%
French (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes Rhone)
6.0%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Jura)
3.4%
???

Volga-Ural
5.4%
Udmurt
3.4%
Udmurt
3.4%
Mari
2.0%
Mari
2.0%

POPULATION
DISTANCE
1 Anatolian Turk (Konya) 1.754
2 Anatolian Turk (Karaman) 2.336
3 Anatolian Turk (Ordu) 2.358
4 Anatolian Turk (Kayseri) 2.602
5 Anatolian Turk (Sivas) 2.686
6 Anatolian Turk (Isparta) 2.793
7 Anatolian Turk (Afyonkarahisar) 3.037
8 Anatolian Turk (Gaziantep) 3.213
9 Anatolian Turk (Aydın) 3.229
10 Anatolian Turk (Denizli) 3.273

https://i.postimg.cc/Dn3kqz7n/Untitled.jpg

POPULATION DISTANCE
1 Lithuanian (South Aukstaitija) 1.946
2 Russian (Voronez) 1.948
3 Ukrainian (Chernihiv) 1.977
4 Ukrainian (Zhytomyr) 2.017
5 Belarusian 2.019
6 Russian (Kaluga) 2.024
7 Ukrainian (Rivne) 2.061
8 Russian (Kursk) 2.062
9 Lithuanian (West Aukstaitija) 2.062
10 Ukrainian (Dnipro) 2.075

Only my dad has Illustrative DNA:

https://i.imgur.com/ahSEE1C.png

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Originally Posted by nittionia

Only my dad has Illustrative DNA:

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Are Vessna and CountGrishnackh your sisters? Their avatar image and you have a familar vibe.

I don´t see that "modern breakdown" feature.:confused:

Edit: Ok, I guess maybe it´s "customizable modern ancestry" using all the sources...?

Not my results, but my enana´s ones.

Southwest Europe
81.0%
Basque
47.8%
Basque (Spain)
47.8%
Spanish
33.2%
Castilian (Castile and Leon Soria)
33.2%
West Europe
12.6%
French (Arpitan)
12.6%
French (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes Loire)
12.6%
Southeast Europe
5.2%
Aegean Sea
5.2%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria)
5.2%
Southwest Asia
0.6%
Arabian Peninsula
0.6%
Bedouin
0.6%
Sub-Saharan African
0.6%
Khoisan
0.6%
San (Ju Hoan)
0.6%

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Are Vessna and CountGrishnackh your sisters? Their avatar image and you have a familar vibe.

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I see what you mean and yes :) When they were born, our parents were completely slavic. By the time I was born, they had converted to Scandinavianism

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Fit: 1.245 (Good)

East Europe
52.0%
East Slavic
43.4%
Ukrainian (Zhytomyr)
42.6%
Russian (Leshukonsky)
0.4%
Russian (Belgorod)
0.4%

Baltic
8.6%
Lithuanian (East Aukstaitija)
8.6%

Baltic Finnic
27.0%
Russia
27.0%
Ingrian
27.0%

???
West Europe
15.6%
French (Oïl)
6.2%
French (Centre-Val de Loire Indre)
6.2%
French (Arpitan)
9.4%
French (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes Rhone)
6.0%
French (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte Jura)
3.4%
???

Volga-Ural
5.4%
Udmurt
3.4%
Udmurt
3.4%
Mari
2.0%
Mari
2.0%

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You get a lot of Finno-Ugrian. What’s your closest modern population?


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Southwest Europe
66.4%
Spanish
66.4%
Catalan (Catalonia Penedes)
44.8%
Catalan (Catalonia Pirineu)
12.2%
Navarrese (Navarre)
5.8%
Castilian (Castile and Leon Soria)
3.6%
Central Europe
23.6%
Germany
23.6%
German (Hamburg)
13.2%
German
10.4%
Baltic Finnic
10.0%
Estonia
10.0%
Estonian
10.0%
Fit: 1.162 (Good)

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Originally Posted by Vessna

You get a lot of Finno-Ugrian. What’s your closest modern population?


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Genotek says I'm a mix between Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians and Mordvins, IllustrativeDNA says my closest populations are Ukrainians, Russians and Poles (Belarusians are as far removed from me as Mordvins according to them), FamilioDNA says i'm a mix between Russians, Poles, Belarusians, Ukrainians and Mokshans (a subdivision of Mordvins. The other being Erzyas, but they're farther away from me than Poles and Belarusians.) Other calculators always show somewhat identical results with me having either Ukrainians or Russians as my closest population. That's to be expected tho, with my mother being Ukrainian and my father being Russian.

https://i.imgur.com/LNy0EtR.jpg

Southeast Europe 41.6%

Aegean Sea 25.0%
Greek (Fourni-Ikaria) 25.0%

Mainland Greece 7.4%
Greek (Epirus) 5.2%
Greek (Peloponnese Laconia Monemvasia Municipality) 2.2%

Balkan Slav 9.2%
Bosniak (Croatia) 4.4%
Croat (Bosnia) 4.2%
Serb (Bosnia) 0.6%

South Asia 36.6%

Indian Subcontinent 36.6%
Madiga (Andhra Pradesh) 16.0%
Kurumba 8.6%
Chhattisgarhi 5.6%
Gujarati (Patel) 4.0%
Dalit (Tamil Nadu) 1.6%
Bania (Gupta) 0.8%

West Asia and the Caucasus 21.8%

Eastern Black Sea 15.2%
Turkish (Trabzon)15.2%

Levant 6.6%
Samaritan 6.6%

Fit: 1.519 (Good)

me

https://i.imgur.com/3edbDaJ.png

ex

https://i.imgur.com/BHVdZv5.png

https://imgur.com/PjmPf4u.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kg1221Ly/Screen...506-Chrome.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/WWK5Ht7/modern.png