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Orangepulp's DNA tribes results.
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90% Caucasus-Anatolian. Seems to peak in Turks the component.
Congrats.
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That tiny Asian component (Manchuria)must have come through Genghis Khan's Soldiers.
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Osprey
That tiny Asian component (Manchuria)must have come through Genghis Khan's Soldiers.
You left out the Siberian component. The Asian is form the Turkic input.
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Inquiring Mind
90% Caucasus-Anatolian. Seems to peak in Turks the component.
Congrats.
Thanks but what is the average Anatolian score for Turks, do you know?
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orangepulp
Thanks but what is the average Anatolian score for Turks, do you know?
i have no clue, but the name anatolian gives me a hint it must be high in turks. i also suspect the indus valley is from mixing with kurdish people, im sure they have some % indus valley
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Inquiring Mind
i have no clue, but the name anatolian gives me a hint it must be high in turks. i also suspect the indus valley is from mixing with kurdish people, im sure they have some % indus valley
The Anatolian/Caucasus component would be highiest in the Caucasus, it probably peaks with Georgians not Turks. Indus probably came with the Turkic input, I don't think its mixing with Kurdish people. I wonder if Armenians and Assyrians score and Indus?
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Congratulations. Orange scores the highest Anatolian components among all Anatolian Turks I've seen. Therefor, she very native.
My 'bat.par'
60.40% Anatolia
27.20% Balkans
12.40% Turkic
Did you pay for this test or did you get it for free by Eupedia(?)
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cmd_
Congratulations. Orange scores the highest Anatolian components among all Anatolian Turks I've seen. Therefor, she very native.
My 'bat.par'
60.40% Anatolia
27.20% Balkans
12.40% Turkic
Did you pay for this test or did you get it for free by Eupedia(?)
I got the test for free, participants of the Eurogenes project got the test done for free.
I also scored Siberian it means I have Turkic input.
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orangepulp
I got the test for free, participants of the Eurogenes project got the test done for free.
I also scored Siberian it means I have Turkic input.
I am a member of Eurogenes. How do I get this test done?
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cmd_
I am a member of Eurogenes. How do I get this test done?
It's for a limited time.Didn't you read Polakos post on ABF, Mr. John?
http://bga101.blogspot.com.au/2012/0...lysis-for.html
Fill out the grandparent question then e-mail them your raw file along with your Eurogenes number.
Btw, whats you Euro number?
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orangepulp
No, I did not see it. I'm TR18. Thanks for the URL, by the way.
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cmd_
No, I did not see it. I'm TR18. Thanks for the URL, by the way.
Okay thanks, You seem to have significant Turkic input when looking at your admixtures.
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orangepulp
I got a high Caucasus/Anatolian score and I match first with Georgians and Armenians.
Orange Pulp, how does this analysis compare to what you know about your ancestry and the other tools with which you have tested? Is it accurate?
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orangepulp
Okay thanks, You seem to have significant Turkic input when looking at your admixtures.
Orangepulp, cmd_ cannot speak Turkish and he keeps swearing at Turks here for some reason. Türkü also knows this imposter named cmd_.
I have no idea who he is and where he is from but i am sure that he cannot speak any Turkic language. Maybe he is an Armenian imposter, i don't know.
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xajapa
Orange Pulp, how does this analysis compare to what you know about your ancestry and the other tools with which you have tested? Is it accurate?
Well I have always known myself as a Turk nothing else but I am not shocked by my results considering my ancestral region. My results just show I am more preTurkic genetically. I never thought Anatolian Turks were fully of Central Asian origin, of course there is an input but it is not dominant.
As for other tests I always seem to have an affinity with Georgians and Armenians so nothing very knew with this test except that my Asian score seems to be less with this one for some reason??
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Onur
Orangepulp, cmd_ cannot speak Turkish and he keeps swearing at Turks here for some reason. Türkü also knows this imposter named cmd_.
I have no idea who he is and where he is from but i am sure that he cannot speak any Turkic language. Maybe he is an Armenian imposter, i don't know.
I know cmd_ from ABF he is MR. John, he did a DNA test and it shows he is a Turk but is he an impostor?? I don't know, it could be
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orangepulp
You left out the Siberian component. The Asian is form the Turkic input.
No... the Turkic input's Asian influence was magnified by the Mongol invasions when the Oghuz Turks were still located somewhere north of the Caspian Sea.
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Osprey
That tiny Asian component (Manchuria)must have come through Genghis Khan's Soldiers.
evon's uncle who is West Norwegian got 2% Manchurian...
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Pallantides
evon's uncle who is West Norwegian got 2% Manchurian...
More than me? Did he score Siberian??
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when are we getting married?
also your more caucus than I imagined, I would have thought you were more arab
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He got 2.41% Manchurian, he did not get any Siberian.
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Orangeplup I think your ancestors were either Armenians or Georgians who converted recently and took up the Turkic identity. This clearly what seems to be the case based on your genetic results, and the Turkic is rather very minor and might indicate such a result, this is not attack on your ethnicity:p. but it also proves that a large number of Turks are just Anatolians who shfited culture and absorbed some Turkic elements. Congrats:)
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Snug
also your more caucus than I imagined, I would have thought you were more arab
Am I Arab that you would imagine me more Arab?
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I think if anything it shows she has a lack of Balkan admixture present in other Turks and is thus more native to Anatolia and without recent Balkan input.
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orangepulp
Am I Arab that you would imagine me more Arab?
by arab I mean like genetically not culturally
also turkey is not really arabic they speak turkish, they are muslim though,
anyway I thought you were more mediteranean, how is that?
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CircassianWine
Orangeplup I think your ancestors were either Armenians or Georgians who converted recently and took up the Turkic identity. This clearly what seems to be the case based on your genetic results, and the Turkic is rather very minor and might indicate such a result, this is not attack on your ethnicity:p. but it also proves that a large number of Turks are just Anatolians who shfited culture and absorbed some Turkic elements. Congrats:)
Converted recently, are you serious!!!I am sure my family were Muslims for centuries and still there is no proof that I have recent Armenian or Georgian ancestry, there seems to be a strong affinity but that would be natural since all Turks are not that different from Armenians. I mean I guess many Armenians in the beginning probably intermingled with the original Turks. For sure we don't know of any recent Georgian or Armenian ancestry, we always knew ourselves to be Turks. I can trace back my ancestors to about 5-6 generations back. I remember reading somewhere that the people of Erzurum were Muslim even before the Turks came because of the Arabs that came to Erzurum, I guess since the people of Erzurum were already Muslims they easily accepted The Turks as the rulers therefore, less troops were needed in that region meaning less Turkic input.
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sleepytigers
I think if anything it shows she has a lack of Balkan admixture present in other Turks and is thus more native to Anatolia and without recent Balkan input.
Who said the other Turks have Balkan admixture?? The normal Anatolian Turks are not that different from me. Turks who have Balkan ancestry usually know it.
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Snug
by arab I mean like genetically not culturally
also turkey is not really arabic they speak turkish, they are muslim though,
Turks are not genetically Arab at all, they have a better affinity with the people of the Caucasus.
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anyway I thought you were more mediteranean, how is that?
Who said I was completely med?? Yea I have med admixture as all Turks and people of that region but I was never completely med. Though I don't know why the med admixture doesn't show in this test?
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orangepulp
Converted recently, are you serious!!!I am sure my family were Muslims for centuries and still there is no proof that I have recent Armenian or Georgian ancestry, there seems to be a strong affinity but that would be natural since all Turks are not that different from Armenians. I mean I guess many Armenians in the beginning probably intermingled with the original Turks. For sure we don't know of any recent Georgian or Armenian ancestry, we always knew ourselves to be Turks. I can trace back my ancestors to about 5-6 generations back. I remember reading somewhere that the people of Erzurum were Muslim even before the Turks came because of the Arabs that came to Erzurum, I guess since the people of Erzurum were already Muslims they easily accepted The Turks as the rulers therefore, less troops were needed in that region meaning less Turkic input.
Who said the other Turks have Balkan admixture?? The normal Anatolian Turks are not that different from me. Turks who have Balkan ancestry usually know it.
Turks are not genetically Arab at all, they have a better affinity with the people of the Caucasus.
Who said I was completely med?? Yea I have med admixture as all Turks and people of that region but I was never completely med. Though I don't know why the med admixture doesn't show in this test?
The point is since, we dont have many samples from your part of Turkey, it's hard to judge if your family is from fully Armenian/Georgian background and freshly converts etc.
But since you can go back like 6 generations, you are just a Turk. You might have also similarities or some clusterings with Armenians/Goergians since these countries are the neighbourhood countries of one of your parents city. So this is also not a big shock.
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orangepulp
11.04% Balkans
83.23% Anatolia
5.73% Turkic
according to this result, "Turkic" considered as full mongoloid?
What's your total asian admixture?
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Pecheneg
according to this result, "Turkic" considered as full mongoloid?
What's your total asian admixture?
This calculator probably only means the mongoloid part, actually I am not sure but you can see my 23andme results, I scored 2.69% Asian and around 5% Asian with Eurogenes and Dodecad projects:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39254
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SometimesYes
^Who's TR2 ?
TR2 from Eurogenes...(my ex)..
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SometimesYes
The point is since, we dont have many samples from your part of Turkey, it's hard to judge if your family is from fully Armenian/Georgian background and freshly converts etc.
But since you can go back like 6 generations, you are just a Turk. You might have also similarities or some clusterings with Armenians/Goergians since these countries are the neighbourhood countries of one of your parents city. So this is also not a big shock.
Don't forget I am only half from Erzurum, my father is from Konya. So my results aren't a very good example of the people of the North East. I will have my maternal uncle tested then I can know.
I am pretty sure my family are Muslims for a long time. My family was shocked when I told them we are similar to Armenians, as you know in my grandmothers village the Armenians attacked many times. So Armenians aren't really good in their book. Its actually interesting that my grandmother village has an Armenians name ''Shiganos''
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evon
TR2 from Eurogenes...(my ex)..
What's her balkan vat calculator? More different than Orangepulp? Probably more Turkich than Orange based on the results within this thread.
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Pallantides
He got 2.41% Manchurian, he did not get any Siberian.
This test is not to be taken too seriously though from my perspective, i mean the Manchurian in my family is real, but at what level is hard to say, but looking at our overall results one can easily spot the error's, my paternal aunt should have much higher Iberian then me, yet she dosnt, my grandmother should have Middle eastern/Caucasus, yet she dosnt, and i should have Manchurian, yet i dont have it...and dont get me started on my grandmothers African score :confused:
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orangepulp
Wow, there is quite a difference. She is from Konya right?? I am half from konya.
From what i can tell via all the accumulated 23andme ect results, she has "recent" Chinese ancestry, likely from the same source as my family, that being North East China, here represented as Manchuria...
Both her ancestry lines are from the wider Konya region, but not Konya itself...
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I also just sent in my information to DNAtribes and got a reply back from them. I have to wait 3-5 business days for results to be sent. Can't wait. :)
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evon
From what i can tell via all the accumulated 23andme ect results, she has "recent" Chinese ancestry, likely from the same source as my family, that being North East China, here represented as Manchuria...
Both her ancestry lines are from the wider Konya region, but not Konya itself...
Recent Chinese lol!! I think its from the Turkic input. Central and Western regions of Turkey have the most Turkic input.
I am surprised that my Asian score is very little in this test, you think this is accurate??
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orangepulp
I know cmd_ from ABF he is MR. John, he did a DNA test and it shows he is a Turk but is he an impostor?? I don't know, it could be
He might be a Turk genetically but for his mindset, he is not at all and thats what matters most. I think he is writing the tag "Turk" just because of his dna results. Thats why i guessed he is an Armenian or something.
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CircassianWine
Orangeplup I think your ancestors were either Armenians or Georgians who converted recently and took up the Turkic identity.
Did you know that there was Georgians all over Anatolia and Istanbul during Byzantine empire era? Just read the notes of travelers from 13-14th century and you will see that they mention Georgian speaking people in Istanbul and Anatolia.
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orangepulp
I remember reading somewhere that the people of Erzurum were Muslim even before the Turks came because of the Arabs that came to Erzurum
Are you from Erzurum? Did you know that the Turkish accent of "Ahıska Turks of western Georgia" is exactly same as people from Erzurum and Kars?
There was a big Turkish minority group in western Georgia, inhabiting close to our Georgian border. They were living there for centuries, maybe 1000 years `till Stalin killed them and expelled the rest to Siberia.
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Pecheneg
according to this result, "Turkic" considered as full mongoloid?
Yes, these modern geneticists only considers mongolic dna as Turkic, other Anatolian or Caucasus haplotypes are either classified as armeniod or hellenic. They do this purposely with unproven claim of "Turks=Mongols".
This is ofc not something scientific but purely politics.
