Small G25 Balkan model (Scaled)

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08-09-2020, 02:17 PM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

We are more than half Slavic, so why do you make retarded thread like this? Lmao.

I have no idea who you are or what you think you are, I have made a model with the best of my intentions, and I am correcting what you are telling me as I go.

Make with the references the model that you like the most, as if you want to do it only with German and Slav references, I don't care.

I do not understand your reaction, but I have known for a long time that it is impossible to do something that everyone likes.

Edit:and these are references taking as a base modern populations, not any ancient references-based model.
08-09-2020, 02:32 PM
Mr.G

Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.2482% / 0.01248171
62.2 German
34.4 Balkan
3.4 Turkic
0.0 Slav

Target: MrG_Dad
Distance: 2.2588% / 0.02258842
43.4 Balkan
30.6 German
16.4 Slav
9.6 Turkic

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7950% / 0.01794967
85.6 German
14.4 Balkan
0.0 Slav
0.0 Turkic
08-09-2020, 02:36 PM
Daco Celtic

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixajo

You can try the last Irish customized refrence, as I see you are mixed Irish/Balkan

Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC,=I/S/W_testB,+_ I/S/WTestC(Individual samples from original datasheet)

Code:

Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC,0.1348526,0.1361087,0.0636853,0.0488373,0.0387137,0.0183944,0.0036176,0.0048899,0.0051508,-0.0005142,-0.0061089,0.0037207,-0.0138265,-0.0119956,0.0247883,0.0025116,-0.0096953,0.0033035,0.0018612,0.0021349,0.0039181,0.0032281,0.0018050,0.0164227,0.0032161

Using Balkan B which is my best fit

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.7454% / 0.01745383
50.8 Balkan
47.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
1.4 Turkic
08-09-2020, 02:38 PM
mitalit

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 5.5684% / 0.05568414
55.6 Balkan
43.0 German
1.4 Turkic
08-09-2020, 02:45 PM
Mr.G

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Using Balkan B which is my best fit

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.7454% / 0.01745383
50.8 Balkan
47.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
1.4 Turkic

23andMe.
08-09-2020, 02:48 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixajo

I have no idea who you are or what you think you are, I have made a model with the best of my intentions, and I am correcting what you are telling me as I go.

Make with the references the model that you like the most, as if you want to do it only with German and Slav references, I don't care.

I do not understand your reaction, but I have known for a long time that it is impossible to do something that everyone likes.

Edit:and these are references taking as a base modern populations, not any ancient references-based model.

I already made SE European ancient calculator.

Vast majority of "Balkan" is made of Slavic nations. Slavs are most numerous people in the "Balkans"

So what are you trying to say that we are not Slavic?

Go fuck yourself.
08-09-2020, 03:16 PM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

I already made SE European ancient calculator.

Vast majority of "Balkan" is made of Slavic nations. Slavs are most numerous people in the "Balkans"

So what are you trying to say that we are not Slavic?

Go fuck yourself.

No, I am not trying to say anything.

Slavs here are based in what just now are considered Slav countries, those are not ancient references based samples. Same for Balkan or any reference used here, so those sources only modelate modern people from Balkans using modern countries references usually related with balkans.

And who are "we" for you? Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Greeks, Albanians too? Balkan is not only your country, this is a model for everyone in Balkans, not made for you specifically.

And again, try different references, I gave to you quite variated ones, sureley you can score that 50% Slav you want to see in your results, if is that what bothers you.

You are seeing bad intentions where there are none, you take too far your suspicions about possible trolling of your people, I assure you that this is not an attempt to trolling.

And do not take these models so seriously, they are not proof of anything, and less these of mine, which are not even definitive, I simply go back and forth continuously, trying to get it right.

You can suggest yourself some references that you like at any time, and if the rest of the people from other countries and areas of the Balkans like it, I make them final. I have no problem with this.
08-09-2020, 03:19 PM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixajo

No, I am not trying to say anything.

Slavs here are based in what just now are considered Slav countries, those are not ancient references based samples. Same for Balkan or any reference used here, so those sources only modelate modern people from Balkans using modern countries references usually related with balkans.

And who are "we" for you? Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Greeks, Albanians too? Balkan is not only your country, this is a model for everyone in Balkans, not made for you specifically.

And again, try different references, I gave to you quite variated ones, sureley you can score that 50% Slav you want to see in your results, if is that what bothers you.

You are seeing bad intentions where there are none, you take too far your suspicions about possible trolling of your people, I assure you that this is not an attempt to trolling.

And do not take these models so seriously, they are not proof of anything, and less these of mine, which are not even definitive, I simply go back and forth continuously, trying to get it right.

You can suggest yourself some references that you like at any time, and if the rest of the people from other countries and areas of the Balkans like it, I make them final. I have no problem with this.

We don't like association with Balkans, it is taken as insult for Croats and it has deeply negative connotations similar like Moor for Spaniards.

And please don't try to imply what I want to see in my results, 50% Slavic is Montenegrin range, Croats on average are above 60% early Slavic.

You calculator is shit and annoys me, so next time leave Croats out of it.
08-09-2020, 03:25 PM
oszkar07

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5365% / 0.02536459
60.8 German:B
23.6 Slav:B
15.6 Balkan:B

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.5559% / 0.02555910 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 German:B
20.2 Balkan:A
18.2 Slav:B

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.4703% / 0.02470332
65.8 German:C
19.8 Slav:B
14.4 Balkan:B
08-09-2020, 03:38 PM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

We don't like association with Balkans, it is taken as insult for Croats and it has deeply negative connotations similar like Moor for Spaniards.

And please don't try to imply what I want to see in my results, 50% Slavic is Montenegrin range, Croats on average are above 60% early Slavic.

You calculator is shit and annoys me, so next time leave Croats out of it.

Sorry, but I will go my own way, and to be a model made with modern references, it has enough coherence even compared with models of old references, although it is not possible to extrapolate an ancient population to a modern one completely.

And much more intellectually honest than saying "for a Croat to call him Balkan is like for a Spaniard to call him a Moor", which seems more like a disguised insult for being Spanish, than a valid argument to defend your position.

I understand that you have many quarrels and fights between you, but I am not from the Balkans.

And I have not done anything wrong, nor do I have anything against any Balkan nationality, even assuming that I might like some better than others.

Here is a comparation between my 4 original references and one Balkan ancient samples based model:

https://i.imgur.com/b1hNMSM.png

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