Why I Left Islam and Became a Christian

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Originally Posted by Loki

We're not talking about church here. We're talking about having a relationship with God. And, in order to have that, there has to be first, repentance, and accepting of Jesus as saviour. There is nobody alive who does not need a saviour, who is too good to be a Christian and follow God. We all need God. And there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ.

Perhaps this lockdown is useful to show people that having a relationship with God is not just about going to church... do these people stop being Christians if theit churches are closed and they can't attend services anymore?

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I totally agree. God is the basis of man, a spiritual entity that fills the body. A man without this essence can no longer be called a man, it is already closer to the biorobot, so that he is no longer able to distinguish between good and evil.
And churches are most often a parasitic superstructure on this entity in our material world.

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Originally Posted by Babak

There are tons of those people here. Most of the Iranian expats here love for the U.S to destroy Iran and yet they wear Faravahar. God its so embarrassing.

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These people are disappearing hard and fast because Ist generation ran from Iran with their tails between their legs. Second generation is limited to saying bull crap on internet without knowing anything in reality about Iran and third generation will just care no more.

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Originally Posted by Synapsid

Persians yes, Iranics like Afghans no. I mean look at Avacinna here, he is just like the Typical Afghan guy I debate with in my local debate park or hyde park (apologetics after apologetics, and general religious conservatism). I think the average Persian is more intellectual than Afghanis.

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Ahh you go to the speakers corner? I've seen crazy videos from there.

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Originally Posted by Loki

Absolute lie and nonsense. People who seek the truth above all, are to be respected and commended. And that is what this person in the OP has done.

It is a common habit of Muslims to smear and insult ex-Muslims who have become Christians. This doesn't say anything about them, but a lot about you.

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I wasn't insulting that person from the video , in fact I didn't even bother to watch the video and what makes you even think that I am Muslim when I never stated that I belong to any religion even though I am not ashamed to admit that my family is Catholic and Muslim mixed , fortunately not religious ones.

But I am more interested to know what made you become religious, because this was your comment few years ago :D ?

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Originally Posted by Loki

This is about religion's supportive role then, i.e. the proverbial crutch. No one can deny this, however any true atheist won't start believing in God, just so they can cope with life better. It will mean the (ex) atheist will then live a lie by pretending to believe in God just so it can help him/her through life's hard times. I would never be able to do that. I don't believe in God and life's pressures won't make God more real to me.

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The existence of god has the same influence on my life than his no-existence.

My actions don´t depend from the existence or absence of any superior being and the existence or absence of god are equally undemonstrable facts, so I don´t care about god, and I have not any proof or evidence of any god caring about me.

When I dye, I will face the death (if anguish of unknow allows me) with curiosity, and even if there is a god or I go directy to nowhere but the total extintion of my conscience, I hope that I will not have anything to reproach myself for, or anything to be reproached, because I have tried to act justly.

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Originally Posted by KrashNick

I wasn't insulting that person from the video , in fact I didn't even bother to watch the video and what makes you even think that I am Muslim when I never stated that I belong to any religion even though I am not ashamed to admit that my family is Catholic and Muslim mixed , fortunately not religious ones.

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Ah, yes, it's very evident that you didn't watch the video. You should. It's not good to comment about something without knowledge about it.

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But I am more interested to know what made you become religious, because this was your comment few years ago :D ?

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Even more evidence that you should take me much more seriously now... I've been there, done that... been an atheist, know all their arguments. And then I found God.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

The existence of god has the same influence on my life than his no-existence.

My actions don´t depend from the existence or absence of any superior being and the existence or absence of god are equally undemonstrable facts, so I don´t care about god, and I have not any proof or evidence of any god caring about me.

When I dye, I will face the death (if anguish of unknow allows me) with curiosity, and even if there is a god or I go directy to nowhere but the total extintion of my conscience, I hope that I will not have anything to reproach myself for, or anything to be reproached, because I have tried to act justly.

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This is not good enough, unfortunately, and this reasoning won't help you one day when you stand before the judgement seat of God. And ignorance is no excuse. Especially since there is such a mountain of witnesses around that speak of God's existence and reality. And I will add to that my voice: God is real, I guarantee you that. And the only way to know him is through Jesus Christ. Atheists will not escape judgement, no matter how "good" they have been in their lives. Jesus said that there is nobody good, not even one. Only God is good. We all need redemption from sin, we all need salvation through Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by Ylla

Some of them tend to be more radical because they usually have a hidden agenda behind their conversion, want to prove their "faith" more or simply because they are better informed and serious about their beliefs hence the conversion in the first place. But what is considered radical is also subjective, nowadays even being a pious follower is considered radical. europeans seem really lukewarm about their faith compared to americans for example. It should really be center of a community, that way other aspects of your life can flourish.


Of course because it's not really my business but it's not the same thing so you can't really compare. But anyway this isn't about you! it's about a man converting to Christianity why are you making it about yourselves and saying he must have low intelligence etc you are all deeply against it and taking it personally but why? Yet try to appear liberal and accepting about it and you have the nerve to ask what my views are if it was a muslim conversion basically forcing a liberal answer out of me despite you being hostile and unaccepting of this man's conversion. I'm by no means a fanatic religious person (I keep my faith personal and respect others) but the reactions are interesting to see.

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Erm I'm sorry Ylla but I have to interject here. I only made a comment about intellect and Christianity ( which I back up ) due to these hostile comments against Muslims within only the first page of this thread :

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"Muslims aré retard, ex muslims aré brilliant"

"People converting to Islam in the west are just messed up losers who were bullied in school, have it in for.."

I hope you stayed consistent and gave these fellas a thumbs down too :). My response was to Vojnik who "claimed" that most Muslim converts are messed up losers who have been bullied in life etc . I showed him two videos of English men who seem quite intellectual to me who have accepted Islam . And again I'll stress , I'll stand by what I said . You can challenge what I have to say if you want ( pm me since I don't want to create a shitstorm here )

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Originally Posted by Avicenna

My response was to Vojnik who "claimed" that most Muslim converts are messed up losers who have been bullied in life etc. I showed him two videos of English men who seem quite intellectual to me who have accepted Islam. And again I'll stress, I'll stand by what I said. You can challenge what I have to say if you want.

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Well, he is telling the truth.

In fact there are a number of studies on this subject which show the contrary.

Majority of white converts in the UK are women. Ten years ago they were all becoming Buddhists. Twenty years ago it was Opus Dei lel. Thirty years ago it was Hinduism. Its like fucking veganism or crystal healing dildos to them or some other new age trendy bullshit.

https://i.imgur.com/Oa5ZVRX.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1407465109434.jpg

And they are a minority among minorities.

https://i.imgur.com/Fao3FB9.jpg

Some of the converts clearly have mental issues (like anyone who willingly converts to Islam), often there's things fucked up with their neurological state.

https://i.imgur.com/CqJwX0c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a4IA83U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0YlUsHV.png
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1499880951386.jpg

Some people convert to Islam in prison to enjoy their protection.

https://i.imgur.com/cPQhe7h.jpg

These white female converts normally get socially ostracised.

https://i.imgur.com/9CzPzEF.jpg
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1503183289310.png

And these are exactly the type of women that fall into extremism and marry Jihadist fighters and run away abroad due to the fear of not being socially accepted as a Muslim.

https://i.imgur.com/7ABIg75.jpg

Not to mention, they normally exploit these women. You know damn well they are circulating videos of them raping white girls.

https://i.imgur.com/7Ij6z8O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pfkyqEY.jpg

Many of these women become less religious overtime and even abandon their new religion.

https://i.imgur.com/JvFQzH7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uwGlIpv.jpg

I hope they know there's a death sentence for leaving.

https://i.imgur.com/fUC6KgI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RjdukNT.jpg

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Originally Posted by Avicenna

I showed him two videos of English men who seem quite intellectual to me who have accepted Islam . And again I'll stress , I'll stand by what I said . You can challenge what I have to say if you want ( pm me since I don't want to create a shitstorm here )

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There are zero Englishmen of good upbringing and a sound mind who would convert to Islam. It's simply not possible. Those guys must have been suffering some mental defects or trauma in their lives.