Oldest R1b-L151 found in Afanasievo

So the oldest R1b-L151, directly ancestral to European R1b, was found in Mongolia in a Afanasievo barrow.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2020/0...et-al.html?m=1

Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Token

So the oldest R1b-L151, directly ancestral to European R1b, was found in Mongolia in a Afanasievo barrow.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2020/0...et-al.html?m=1

Thoughts?

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Really interesting. Hopefully more studies like this coming soon.

R1b-L51/151 confirmed from the Pontic steppe east repin horizon.
Like it was ever in any doubt.

Game over baby.

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Originally Posted by Imperator Biff

R1b-L51/151 confirmed from the Pontic steppe east repin horizon.
Like it was ever in any doubt.

Game over baby.

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Yes it's odd the way many people try to deny it. It's obvious with the autosomals that people have today. It's almost like logic goes out the window with some people. :)

Yes, the sample was similar to other Afanasevo so it is game over, L51 is a steppe uniparental.

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

Yes it's odd the way many people try to deny it. It's obvious with the autosomals that people have today. It's almost like logic goes out the window with some people. :)

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Even if we get more hi res samples from the region confirmed for the SNP those types will still deny it and claim it’s a ‘balkan’ or a ‘baltic’ lineage of some kind or even a neolithic marker that got its steppe component from CWC women even tho it’s brother subclade is dominant in Yamnaya. It’s sad how fucking deluded these people are.
Ultimately BB and Yamnaya have a common eneolithic steppe heritage, probably in Sredni Stog I would suspect.

He was uploaded to the datasheet.

Distance: 3.3037% / 0.03303721
44.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 MNG_Afanasievo_1
13.2 Yoruba
7.0 WHG
4.0 MAR_Taforalt
3.6 Surui
0.4 Hun_Tian_Shan

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Originally Posted by Raizen

He was uploaded to the datasheet.

Distance: 3.3037% / 0.03303721
44.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 MNG_Afanasievo_1
13.2 Yoruba
7.0 WHG
4.0 MAR_Taforalt
3.6 Surui
0.4 Hun_Tian_Shan

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Are these your results or his resutls?

Everybody knew that Afanasievo had some Yamnaya DNA mixed with the locals in Central Asia. But I didn't expect so much Yamnaya/44% West Asian Anatolia_Barcin_N there.

R1b in Afanasievo is most likely from the (late-P)IEans from Yamnaya.

Modern distribution of haplogroup R1b-L51*
https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/...-l51-basal.jpg

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Originally Posted by Eline

Are these your results or his resutls?

Everybody knew that Afanasievo had some Yamnaya DNA mixed with the locals in Central Asia. But I didn't expect so much Yamnaya/44% West Asian Anatolia_Barcin_N there.

R1b in Afanasievo is most likely from the (late-P)IEans from Yamnaya.

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This is me modelled with the new Afanasevo sample hehe, notice the Yoruba.