Why are people so proud of having Norman ancestry and being connected to the Crusades?

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Originally Posted by Myanthropologies

I judge them because I have seen them use it over and over again as an excuse to be anti-black, anti-jewish, and put people who are "browner" than them down. No study has even confirmed they even have crusader ancestry yet.

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When you say Menas you have to be specific, A lot of MENAs of European origin especially Lebanese people and northern coast of Egypt... so there is no self-hate but the exception for the European Egyptians that they don't jump around saying we are europeans, once Egyptian always Egyptian... Lebanese otherwise (not majority) want to have more links with Europe other than Arabs.

Anyway the amount of Europeans in Menas is way higher than Turkey or Afghanistan.

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Originally Posted by Myanthropologies

I judge them because I have seen them use it over and over again as an excuse to be anti-black, anti-jewish, and put people who are "browner" than them down. No study has even confirmed they even have crusader ancestry yet.

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I haven't even seen much from them about heralding their remote Crusader lineages, but others have seen more than me.

I think you exaggerate about them using the "Who's Whiter" salutation to bash Blacks and Jews. I do suppose that they've used other reasons to express their dislike for them.

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Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop

I haven't even seen much from them about heralding their remote Crusader lineages, but others have seen more than me.

I think you exaggerate about them using the "Who's Whiter" salutation to bash Blacks and Jews. I do suppose that they've used other reasons to express their dislike for them.

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Which populations do you cluster with?

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The Normans were bastards, but they were ubermenschen as well. I'm proud of what little Norman ancestry I have, even though I resent their conquest of Britain and Ireland.

Interesting, I think my lebanese great grandpa had crusaders blood because of his looks. But thats not a reason to be proud, and if that was true he didnt even know or cared, he concidered himself 100% christian lebanese.

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Originally Posted by Annie999

Interesting, I think my lebanese great grandpa had crusaders blood because of his looks. But thats not a reason to be proud, and if that was true he didnt even know or cared, he concidered himself 100% christian lebanese.

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What did he look like?

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

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The Normans were bastards, but they were ubermenschen as well. I'm proud of what little Norman ancestry I have, even though I resent their conquest of Britain and Ireland.

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I agree, and you should be proud. It's an impressive legacy, especially the Battle of Cerami.

Prior to the Battle of Hastings, in 1066, William the Conquerer was called Willam the Bastard. He should've been called William the Lucky. Harold's army had just defeated the Vikings at Stamford Bridge, but found that they had to make a forced march across England to face William's Normans.

Lebanese are more westernized probably comparing to the rest of the middle east so they think by Norman ancestry -->European ancestry-->Good ancestry?
There's a lot of stereotyping going on right now against the middle east .

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Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Which populations do you cluster with?

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It's a good question. I've been procrastinating about learning the how to implement it that way. Send me a pm and we can talk about it. Thanks for asking.

Actual Norman input in Lebanon is mostly concentrated in Shias and Druzes, due to their isolation prior and after being raped by the Crusaders. I don't neither are proud of this input, just self-aware.