GENETIC REPORTS AND ANALYSES. AND LOVING LINEAGE AND HERITAGE WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND SOUL

A quick point before we begin.

I WOULD LIKE TO START BY PAYING TRIBUTE TO THE MAN WHO CAN NEVER DIE :bowlol::notworth::bow00001::biggrin: :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:

I saw the movie trailer for Elvis the King of Rock on YouTube last night and and started loving more deeply, intensely, passionately, both my identity, self, heritage, and lineage and the lineage and heritage of Elvis the King AKA "The Man Who Can Never Die".

I have come to love it with all my heart and soul. :love0033::love0033::love0031::love0031::love0031: :fdgd::iloveyou:

This kind of love can only be described as "fanatical".

The King of Rock 'n Roll shares the same mtDNA or maternal haplogroup of W6 with me.

All Hail the King. Who belongs to the maternal haplogroup known as W6. :hail::hail::hail::hail::hail::clap::bump2:

My CRI Genetics report has confirmed this. And my Genetrack report has gone further and pinpointed the country or region of origin. Which is Sweden. And more specifically, Gotland.

Not only that: they gave me my specific subclade, W6a. They also provided a thorough analysis and a very detailed and lengthy report. I recall asking FTDNA "Big Y" specialist Casimir about this "subclade" question. His reply was, simply, "It's W6".

At over 1000 dollars, I didn't expect anything less from Genetrack Biolabs (Canada).

Yes, money is meant to be spent! But that's not the question, or questions, at issue.

I'd say it was money well spent.

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Speaking of weeding, boy, oh boy. Tell me about it. I'm lucky I haven't suffered a nervous breakdown. I would have had a mental breakdown if I didn't have the two valuable and limited resources—money and time—for all these genetic tests. Since these tests can easily run into thousands of dollars.

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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...66#post7516866

The deceivers have ended up as the deceived. Filthy liars. They are doomed to eternal damnation. :flynch::suicide::smash::bitch::voodoo::voodoo::vo odoo:

Genoplot only allows a maximum limit of 3000 credits per month, with no rollovers. I have taken out a one-year subscription for one hundred dollars (and recommend you do too).

The problem is that you can easily run out of credits to use for various admixes. Thus, I am practically forced to create another account.

This will cost me another hundred dollars.

But does that matter? It does not matter in the least.

But also, GEDmatch can sink into oblivion, and nobody would notice or care if they died.

Only a fool or a liar would care.

Like these naysayers and dangerously ill informed p*pinjays on Anthrogenica, and possibly other forums. Take this dangerously ill-informed and factually wrong post by "MonkeyDLuffy", on Anthrogenica.

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Kush is Reddy and tipirneni is Kamma from same region. They score like Patels, high Iran N and AASI, and almost close to none steppe.

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You can certainly say that this is inflammatory and it is inept. It's a crassly ignorant comment from someone who has made similar crassly ignorant comments in the past, but the ignorance of his original comments really struck a chord with me.

If there's one phrase that strikes cold terror deep into the heart, it's this.

They are words and thoughts that strike a chord of fear, loathing, and anger.

It's cheap, uneducated, offensive, disgusting, pernicious, ill-judged, ill-informed, and presumptuous in its ignorance.

Either they're aware of what they are doing, in which case they are philistines, or they are unaware, in which case they are dangerously ignorant and ill-informed.

Such views are at best ill-informed and at worse nothing less than complete ignorance. Such ill-informed and nasty opinions cannot be allowed to pass unchallenged.

F*ck 'em and f*ck all the naysayers and ill informed p*pinjays. Like f*ck them all . . . And bring the deceivers to justice.

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I'll start with this:

Mephisto K10

https://i.ibb.co/5KPq7Qb/afana.png

https://i.ibb.co/D49SB9M/mep.png

https://i.ibb.co/p04MSVQ/afanas.png

https://i.ibb.co/fC4xg6W/bbell.png

https://i.ibb.co/z2Cssmv/bell.png

https://i.ibb.co/8BgFmL1/spain.png

https://i.ibb.co/SdyhxcJ/scr.png

These results above pretty much resemble my own.

And here are some of the results from RUSSIA8:

https://i.ibb.co/NSstFX1/cauc.png

https://i.ibb.co/9tsQjCK/chart.png

https://i.ibb.co/SQ1vn1N/rus.png

https://i.ibb.co/zsybYR1/fin.png

https://i.ibb.co/vPsGHxJ/tab.png

This particular admix (Russia K8) has yielded some very interesting results.

I'll do more detailed analysis of this later.

From what I can see, the "Caucasian" component or group also consists of Anatolian and Balkan components.

And thus "Caucasian" should read "Caucasian-Anatolian-Balkan".

The higher scores indicate that this is also the case, and the results should be considered or should be interpreted with this in mind.

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This sounds eerily similar to Living DNA, who said the same thing, and used the same excuse! :roll eyes:crazy:

Because I've never had problems like this. Only with these two (Living DNA and Atlas Biomed).

And they have been caught out.

What does this tell us, in general? And what does this tell us -- or at least imply?

This whole thing has been despicable on his part. This is despicable and should be condemned.

It's excuse after excuse. Some people will come up with excuse after excuse. People Like Them!!!

And I most likely have done more genetic tests and spent more money on them than anyone else.

TENS of thousands of dollars. Right across the board. All angles covered; no stone unturned.

I feel like people are constantly trying to fuck with me, and I like to surprise them like, 'No, you cannot.'

Are they (Atlas Biomed) in cohorts with Living DNA, making the same exact excuse :picard2::bitch::bitch::icon_fight:

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And as text on the site states: "The technologies used in the Atlas DNA Test are 99.9% accurate. Atlas Biomed has ISO 13485:2016 accreditation for medical device quality management systems. Your DNA sample is analysed using DNA microarray technology from Illumina in a certified EU lab."

And where do you get off thinking you can blame me for your bullshit?

Yeah you have the wrong person. If you are trying to fuck with me, and trying to fuck with my head. Think thrice before trying to fuck with me.

Using the same excuse makes it seem kind of suspicious.

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Louise Wayman <hello@atlasbiomed.com>

Hello Vik,

I am contacting you from Atlas Biomed, in reference to your Atlas DNA Test.

I am sorry to inform you that in order to complete the analysis, and send the results to you, we need to receive another biological sample for your DNA test.

We ran a series of tests that have shown that the received sample (9203-0063) cannot be used.

We have attempted to re-test your sample several times, unfortunately we've been unable to extract enough data from it to provide you with results that meet our quality standards. The laboratory has commented that there was very little DNA within the sample, this has resulted in a lack of quality data left to be analysed.

The most common reason why this happens is that there's an insufficient amount of liquid saliva (not bubbles), or there's contamination from either oral hygiene products, carbonated products, cigarettes, as well as other products that come in contact with your mouth, when providing a sample immediately or shortly after using them.

We must assure you that this situation is not common, however it's also not an exceptional case, so there is no need to be concerned.

We will of course be happy to send you a new kit, free of charge, so that I may send this to you, could you please let us know the best address for delivery, as well as a contact telephone number to provide to our courier partner.

I will in the meantime remove the first barcode from your account, so that the new one can be registered upon receipt.

Should you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us anytime.

My apologies again for the inconvenience, and I hope to speak to you soon.

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Louise Wayman
Customer Support

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Well, that's a nice surprise.

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Avoid them like a plague!

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That is, unless you actually want to receive excuses like these.

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Such excuses! Utterly Shameless! Mr Wayman, it would be in your own interest to not act stupid any longer.

Here's a big FUCK YOU to Louise Wayman. He hasn't got an ounce of shame in his body.

Go to bed, Louise! You're busted.

Against Louise Wayman and his petty excuses I send him......

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Greetings Louise

I've been thinking.

What happens if you come back with the same excuse? After I send a second sample.

You're not fooling me with this,

I'm not going to accept your bullshit and buy this this complete bullshit either.

I can't keep buying this bullshit anymore!

Not from you. And not from Living DNA.

It cost us time and money. Lots of it, in fact.

Getting it here via PACK & SEND and sending it back via DHL EXPRESS.

You can't even specify the proper return address on the package.

Keep your kits to yourself, Louise.

Excuses, excuses, that's all you lot are bloody good at.

Stop with this bullshit already.

Are you in cohorts with Living DNA, making the same exact excuse?

Provide A Full Refund.

Or I'll have my secretary do a full chargeback.

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Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Excuse after excuse.

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Plus they are saying there is contamination
From cigarettes
Vik you have never touched cigarettes
What is this ??

It is just excuses

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Enough excuses.

In fact, I have a big fat "fuck you" for … anybody who is so stupid as to completely buy his bullshit.

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You can't fool me. So don't even fucking try.

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Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel

This sounds eerily similar to Living DNA, who said the same thing, and used the same excuse! :roll eyes:crazy:

Because I've never had problems like this. Only with these two (Living DNA and Atlas Biomed).]

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Add this to the list of creepy firsts: https://i.ibb.co/dpCMtJd/seq.png

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I never expected that from sequencing.com

The same thing could happen to you as well. So what do you do if it happens to you?

Make sure you order from their sister site, Nebula Genomics, regardless of whether or not you have a whole genome sequencing order with Sequencing.com.

Nebula Genomics should definitely be your first choice when it comes to WGS testing.

I would have said the same about Sequencing.com, but not after experiencing the same or similar issues.

The process, here, seems to be going well.

https://i.ibb.co/cC5Jg4c/neb.png

Fingers crossed, though. The last thing I want is to receive the same message stating that "we were not able to process your sample". :no::1004::1099::banging head:banging head:banging head:cussing:cussing:cussing

And what's surprising is that they use the same "state-of-the-art testing lab". And that testing lab is in Georgia, and goes by the name of "AKESOgen".

What's doubly astonishing is that CRI Genetics also uses the same lab for all their DNA tests. And the CRI Genetics kit was processed by the AKESOgen laboratory without any fuss and results entered into their database.

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Alas, this excuse also fails, and I am savagely scornful of this "excuse".

And I'm certainly not buying into this line of BS.

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Test status
There was an issue with your kit. Please contact Support.

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Kit Barcode: Sample Sequencing Failed: https://i.ibb.co/1s3KMKT/ken.png

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Ken
2 days ago
Hi,

My name is Ken, from with Sequencing.com's Customer Support team. I am writing to inform you that the sequencing for kit barcode NG104H7XTN was not successful. Our laboratory partner has very strict quality controls, and any sequencing results which do not pass those quality controls are rejected to insure the highest possible quality and accuracy of your genetic data.

Please be assured that this is not indicative of anything being wrong or abnormal with your DNA—it's normal for a small percentage of test kits to fail for various reasons that are unrelated to the genome itself.

When this occurs we can send you a replacement kit at no charge. If you would like us to send you a replacement kit, please let us know and we can process this order immediately.

Also I wanted to let you know personally that we can now ship to Australia.

We apologize that this has led to a delay in returning results for you.

Please let me know if I am able to help out in any way!

Thanks for using Sequencing.com!

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That ain't gonna happen.

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Let this serve as a wake-up call. Let this post serve as a cautionary note, and as an example. And let this be a cautionary tale not forgotten.

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Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel

And I'm certainly not buying into this line of BS. https://i.ibb.co/R3L3VS0/geno.png

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This is a huge cost in "wasted time and money". And it's "a huge let down".

The progress chart shows that the sample had passed all relevant safety tests and checks needed to proceed to the next and final phase. And it had progressed to the final god-that-failed stage. It was in progress of getting sequenced. And then, this? Wtf!!!! :mad::confused::picard2:

https://i.ibb.co/R3L3VS0/geno.png

You can't make this shit up. :fuckyou::fuck_you::fuckyou::fuck_you::fuck_you:

:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

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I just can't believe this. I mean, for god's sake, it passed through the extraction and purification phases. (WTF, right?) This, plainly, is absurd. THIS ISNT A FUCKING JOKE. This is a big let down. The test failed at the final stage. Or so Sequencing.com would have you believe. They cannot be trusted (not with whole genome testing, anyway). Compare the pace of that progress with that of Nebula Genomics.

https://i.ibb.co/022fn3q/nebg.png

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Quality Control
Your sample has entered our multi-phase quality control process to ensure accurate results.

Sequencing
Your sample has passed all the control tests and is being sequenced!

Results Ready
Your sample has been sequenced! The future of health is in your DNA.

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Certainly it's a good start, and hopefully it will progress to the main phase and then the first stage.

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Stephanie (Nebula Genomics)

Jul 11, 2022, 11:21 AM EDT

Hello,

Your sample is currently under the second stage of testing for sequencing. If your sample passes testing you will be receiving your report soon. Please note that your kit id is not registered online. So you do need to register your kit. You can register your kit on our website: Nebula Genomics - https://nebula.org/whole-genome-sequencing-dna-test/ , on the top right-hand corner there is a tab named Register kit. As soon as your kit is done testing, your report will be delivered to your account.

I hope this helps. If you have any other questions feel free to email us.

Thank you,
Stephanie

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Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel

Let this serve as a wake-up call. Let this post serve as a cautionary note, and as an example. And let this be a cautionary tale not forgotten. Certainly it's a good start, and hopefully it will progress to the main phase and then the first stage.

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Talk about being taken for a ride, and for a very expensive ride!

It was never any good, and it was never a "good start", only the illusion of one.

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This is learning the hard way.

This is unusual behavior.

And this is very suspicious.

This will serve as a warning - carefully take note of this and of their behaviors before even deciding to order from them.

And their behavior "should raise alarm bells for everybody".

They should be called out and their behavior stigmatized, marginalized and criminalized.

I sent them (Nebula Genomics) an email yesterday, and look at their response. That's totally unacceptable. They changed the status at once, and now claim that it cannot be processed any longer.

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Such a behavior is suspicious.

The deceit and manipulation are dead giveaways, and these tricksters surely have mastered the art of manipulations and lies.

Indicators of fraud include suspicious activities such as these.

But they continue to sing the same discredited tune.

They are both "playing the same tune" in unison and repeating the same shit ad nauseam.

That Escalated Quickly, to use the popular meme.

https://i.ibb.co/XWmjkcW/process.png

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Not even once.

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Avoid these like the plague. I'm learning it the hard way.

And when the price of whole genome sequencing is too good to be true, the reality is too true to be good, as is the case here.

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AVOID THEIR WHOLE GENOME SEQUENCING TEST
A review has already been written against sequencing.com, outlying the main reason as to why. Let the same be written of their sister company. As I ordered WGS (whole genome) testing) from BOTH of them, and sent the kits back together via DHL Express to the return address, which was the AKESOgen lab in Georgia. I warn you, stay well clear of the whole genome sequencing testing, as they will make some lame excuse that there was not enough DNA for a sample, or it is contaminated. Especially when they use the AKESOgen lab, the same lab used by CRI Genetics. And my tests went through with them without any problems. The same excuse was made by their sister company Sequencing.com. Save the excuses please, Stephanie. I’m not blindly accepting things you say. And this is coming from someone who most likely has done more genetic tests than anybody else has ever done. And spent more on them, with their costs running into tens of thousands of dollars

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https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/6...7911f244a151f6

Guardiome.com specializes in whole genome testing, and they certainly seem to be market leaders in this field.

Of course, it's true that prices don't always reflect values, and that price does not equal value.

They (Guardiome) do charge a higher price ($1,099.00), and I would certainly say, based on my own experience, that their price does "reflect the value", that is to say, the intrinsic value, the correct value, and the real value of things. In this case, sequencing your genome, at 30X coverage. For over a thousand dollars. That's the real market price. Despite what the "contrarians" and the "snake oil salesmen" would have you believe. The price of genome sequencing is dropping at double the rate of Moore's Law, or so they'd have us believe. For comparison, Mapmygenome prices their Whole Genome Sequencing test at ₹89,000.00. This pricing is comparable to Guardiome's prices.

The Guardiome Team's response raises several questions and important points that warrant further discussion.

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Guardiome Team <team@guardiome.com>
Hi Vik,

That is interesting. Did sequencing.com and nebula send you saliva sample kits or swab samples? Swab samples capture much less DNA and are prone to rapid DNA degradation. Saliva sample kits are more stable and there should rarely be issues unless the person giving the sample didn’t follow the sampling instructions (not eating before sampling, not spitting at least 2mL into the tube for example).

Its possible that there were actually problems with amount, purity, and/or degradation both times. But without seeing the sample QC results, our guess is as good as yours regarding what went wrong.

Our team member Kate made this video about sampling that might give you some more background.

Let us know if we can be of any more help. We’d be happy to try sending you a kit as well, we rarely have problems with sample quality.

Cheers,
The Guardiome Team

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The Guardiome Team raises two important points here.

One is about following written instructions, which I always do. The next key point is that they never really had issues with sample processing. And I can tell you from experience, that most genetic testing companies don't have any issues, any problems. Only these four culprits: Living DNA, Atlas Biomed, Sequencing.com, Nebula Genomics. They have been exposed and discredited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff03...el=KatharineME

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Guardiome Team <team@guardiome.com>
Hi Vik,

We don’t have a support number at the moment, but yes we see that. It is strange that the status showed as passes and ready for sequencing at first.

Also to the best of our knowledge, Nebula actually sequences with BGI in China. However it possible they have changed recently.

Best,
The Guardiome Team

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The email exchange is revelatory. This reply was sent back to the Guardiome Team.

Something fishy is going on. Looks like they are shamelessly shifting their positions more often than women change their underwear or sanitary napkins. There are investigations already under way against Dante Labs in the UK. At least the last time I checked. But as pointed out above, one sample kit from Nebula Genomics, and the other from Sequencing.com, (and BTW, they are sister companies or something), were sent to the AKESOgen lab in Georgia. It looks like they are now going under a different name, Tempus. I sent my CRI Genetics sample to the same laboratory (AKESOgen, 3155 Northwoods Pl NW, Peachtree Corners, GA 30071, United States). And then it was processed without the slightest problem.

Followed by this.

And it's good to know that FTDNA (FamilyTreeDNA) didn't go ahead with some sort of collaboration with these shape-shifters. Otherwise, "their good name" would have been destroyed "beyond repair." And confidence and trust in FTDNA would have been justifiably wrecked beyond repair. Who do these chameleons and snake oil salesmen think they're kidding?

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Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel

Also to the best of our knowledge, Nebula actually sequences with BGI in China. However it possible they have changed recently.

Best,
The Guardiome Team

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Originally Posted by VikLevaPatel

Something fishy is going on.

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That sent me into a tailspin. And this is enough to raise alarms. And should certainly raise alarm bells in all of us.

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No matter what you call it, it adds up to the same thing. All this is enough to send you right into a lost and mental tailspin.

This feels like an elaborate April Fool's joke, but sadly the joke is on us.

For all the polarization that grips Washington, here's a source of rare consensus: the emerging threat of China's push to acquire our health care data, including the DNA of American citizens. China has been stealing data, including DNA files, to advance its economic, security, and foreign-policy goals.

https://archive.ph/4gXRl/f472a8695f4...c96c3950f4.jpg, https://i.imgflip.com/6mtciy.jpg

Just let let these things sink in your minds. And let it sink in real deep. And even more especially, let that sink in to understand how despicably low they have sunk.

China already holds the world's largest trove of genetic material, totaling 80 million profiles. Beijing has a track record of misusing genetic data, and Chinese firms are already collecting genetic data from around the world as part of an effort by the Chinese government and companies to develop the world’s largest bio-database. U.S. intelligence also shows that China has conducted "human testing" on members of the People's Liberation Army in hope of developing soldiers with "biologically enhanced capabilities."

"There's something going on".

China Wants Your DNA—and It's up To No Good
China is collecting the world’s DNA and the reason is sinister
China is scooping up DNA data to target foreign spies — and you, the US government says
Gravitas: Is China creating a Global DNA Database? - YouTube
How US experts helped China build a DNA surveillance state
Building of the World's Largest DNA Database: The China Case
China has done human testing to create biologically enhanced super soldiers

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Meanwhile, Beijing Genomics Institute, a major global player in the world of genomics research, reportedly set up labs in at least 18 other countries, and provided COVID testing kits to 180 nations, including the U.S. The U.S. officials stressed that their main concern was preventing the establishment of full-service labs. The officials do not consider the testing kits to pose a serious risk. U.S. officials say the Chinese government is trying to collect Americans' DNA, and they believe a recent offer from a Chinese company for assistance in COVID-19 testing was suspicious.

Bill Evanina recently stepped down as the top counterintelligence official in the U.S., a veteran of both the FBI and CIA. He was so concerned by BGI's COVID testing proposals, and who would ultimately get the data, that he authorized a rare public warning: "Foreign powers can collect, store and exploit biometric information from covid tests." Evanina suspects these lab offers are modern-day Trojan horses. BGI comes to the U.S. bearing gifts, but harboring other motives. It's unclear whether BGI, or any COVID tester, would get DNA from nasal swabs, he says, but the labs are a way to establish a foothold, to bring their equipment here, start mining your data, and set up shop in your neighborhood.

We already know just how low the company Nebula Genomics can stoop. No, it is not squeaky clean, and it's certainly a sight for sore eyes to anyone familiar with the world of genetics. Clearly, there is something foul in the air. Speaking of which, FAIR warning to anyone repulsed by any of these things: Avert your eyes.

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It's like, yeah, your life is just totally ripped out from under you. This interesting thread identifies and highlights my own personal intuitions, experiences, skills, feelings, and knowledge. And, at the same time, these views and experiences highlight how a single company can sink so low. How a company can sink so far, so fast, into "Banana Republic" territory, is, indeed, very troubling.

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The careful browser of genome sequencing stores and their prices might wonder: How low can they go?

One might rightly ask, as The New York Times does, and it certainly remains to be seen, whether fewer genes translate into, or will translate into, fewer dollars. Genes, which are segments of DNA, are of interest to drug companies primarily because they are the recipes for making proteins. It was once thought that knowing the gene would be enough to know the protein. But in humans, more so than in simpler creatures, this is turning out not to be the case. Genes are made of pieces that can be spliced together in different combinations. So one gene can make more than one protein. Genomics alone, therefore, cannot answer everything drug companies need to know. "Genome sequencing is probably the worst way I know to find genes," says Dr. Haseltine of Human Genome Sciences. One can seriously question the long-term sustainable growth and economic viability of the whole industry. The 'end of the beginning' of the genomic era might thus be followed by the 'beginning of the end' very quickly.

As to the question "How low will Nebula Genomics stoop to make a buck?"

For me, the answer is clear. And the answer appears to be "Just wait and see".

Like this one right here. The offer or promo looks too good to be true.

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DNA Day SALE: Deep (30x) Whole Genome Sequencing for $199!

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So many fucking gimmicks and tricks and rewards! Who exactly are they trying to fool here? Seriously, have they no shame?

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Be careful of "Too Good to be True" offers.

Products that sound too good to be true, are. A typical Michelin star restaurant meal costs more than that. My finest bottle of rare vintage wine is worth so much more. (Now that's saying something).

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How can anyone take them seriously, now?

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from: Nebula Genomics <info@nebula.org> via ksd2.klaviyomail.com

Hey Explorer,

Have you heard about DNA Day? It is a unique day when students, teachers, and the public can learn more about genetics and genomics. The day commemorates the completion of the Human Genome Project in 2003 and the discovery of DNA's double helix in 1953.

In advance of DNA Day, we offering a Deep (30x) Whole Genome Sequencing for just $199. This is our lowest price ever!

Whole Genome Sequencing is the only genetic test that decodes 100% of DNA. It will enable you to:

Learn about your ancestry and find new relatives
Receive new, personalized DNA reports every week
Decode ALL your ~20,000 genes to improve your health
Determine appropriate diet and supplementation
Find the right exercise plan to lose weight
Learn about the genetics of your mind, behavior, and personality
Get full access to your genomic big data
Use your genetic information to extend your life
Explore your oral microbiome

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It is staggering how low some people are stooping to con or exploit consumers and are both finding new ways to exploit consumer confusion and trying to "exploit consumers' data" for "private profit".

And speaking of "going rates", I can't help but think of Brian De Palma's Scarface. And this is the quote that I'm referencing: "The going rate on a boat is 1000 a night. You know that."

Money, money, money...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdFIgYXHQQ8&ab_channel=MartijnKools

The only company that I would ever even consider getting a whole-genome sequencing (WGS) test from is Mapmygenome.

They have been tried and tested and been proven to be worth your time and money. And it certainly helps to have been favorably reviewed in a recent review article. According to the Market Research Blog, they are to be considered as one of nine leading companies in Direct-to-Consumer Genetic Testing. That's certainly good news, and I doubt I'm alone in welcoming news that the company is planning to ramp up its operations worldwide and grow its marketing, sales, and leadership teams.

And here's a recent response from the team to questions by e-mail:

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 3:02 PM Krishna Kumar Sepur <krishnakumar.s@mapmygenome.in> wrote:
Hi Sir,

We do whole genome sequence Test, from that we need to opt for a Raw data File . We can provide a download in (g)VCF format also, it would be approximate
data size of 45 GB.

Thanks & Regards
Krishna

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SelfDecode has written a very helpful review on this subject that will provide helpful information and insight. Inevitably, they pose the questions: Is Whole Genome Sequencing Really Worth It? Is Whole Genome Sequencing Worth the Cost? Is a genome deep-dive worth it?

We know what the market price is for x30 whole genome tests, and it seems to be in the $1,000-plus range. The price certainly seems right here.

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High price must mean high value, right? A study shows that marketers of relatively high-priced products should consider keeping prices high, as many consumers associate high price with high quality. And indeed, for the most part, consumers do rely on the price tag to determine the actual quality of the good.

The important thing is to pose the questions. And after posing the questions and providing the explanations, they (SelfDecode) leave us with no choice but to avoid them (Nebula Genomics) like a plague! Like run for your life.

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Keep in mind that Nebula Genomics only analyzes a few SNPs per report, and they really fall far short when it comes to analyzing, processing, visualizing and interpreting this data for the user. They really fall into an abyss, and they can't get out. Interpretation is everything, and interpretation is key to making genetic data more meaningful. If you are unfamiliar with genomics, it is difficult to reach conclusions about how the information they give you about your genes will impact your daily life. Moreover, with a process known as imputation, you can infer the variations of many more SNPs than is sequenced. This service imputes a RAW DNA data file from 700K SNPs to 30 million SNPs.

At this time, you are getting very little for the significant extra cost required to have whole genome sequencing done. Whole genome sequencing is not currently mainstream, which means you won’t get as many benefits from this data, although this data may come in handy further down the line as the technology progresses. And whilst the amount of data generated by whole genome sequencing is unmatched, the reference data to compare your own data to is lacking. There also isn't a lot of information to be gained from large parts of our DNA as the science simply isn’t that far ahead, although having this data for the future may be useful.

Whole genome sequencing means that the test examines almost every gene within the genome, which is roughly 25,000 genes and 4 to 5 million SNPs (which are the variations within each gene that have a meaningful impact on your health). Currently, only so many SNPs have been studied by scientists, so only a small portion of the results from a whole genome sequencing test can provide you with any meaningful information.

And, at the moment, it barely matters, especially as difference in information, between a standard SNP chip test, like one from 23andMe or SelfDecode, and a whole genome sequencing test, is negligible.

Are there other things that we should be worried about? Of course there are. This is the part people should be alarmed by.

Nebula Genomics has gone down a similar path as 23andMe has and has partnered up with the pharmaceutical giant Merck in order to sell their consumer’s data and monetize it. This link between pharma companies and genomics companies isn’t without controversy. Data sharing transparency has been a big conversation topic in the field, with big names in politics including Senator Chuck Schumer raising a red flag about data sharing practices.

That is one of the dangers we should be worried about. And everyone should be worried about that. That is the scary part. This, too, should give everyone the creeps. It sends shivers down my spine.

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Nebula Genomics also share their entire library of genetic data with researchers in order to further the science of genomics. The data is all shared anonymously and only with your explicit permission. The company sends users’ cheek-swab samples to a BGI laboratory in Hong Kong, China.

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https://archive.ph/Gl84e#selection-775.0-783.32

But the fact that they've sunk to this level at all should scare the shit out of everyone.

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The Genoplot platform is available in monthly and annual plans, with prices from $1.99 to $50, depending on features and on what you need and want, and with monthly and annual pricing at $4.99 and $50, respectively, for the pro version.

I now have two accounts there, and one is on a monthly subscription plan, and the other on an yearly subscription.

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https://i.ibb.co/2hMDfCm/screencapture.png

As already pointed out elsewhere, you need this to add the final and finishing touches.

You need to go that extra mile when carrying out any research, including genetic and life-history research. After you have the basic basics, you will need to gradually add more, and just need to go that one step further.

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After all, when genetics is so intimately and inextricably connected to time, place, politics, and identity, this is a must have feature.

Things cost money. Everything costs money. Good things cost money.

And don't forget My True Ancestry, the premium site for discovering your ancient past!

Let's not forget that truth is one, but prophets, mystics, saints, and sages call it by various names.

No "journey of self", that is, and call it what you like, as it can also be called by several other possible terms, including "journey" of self-development, of self-discovery, of self-love, of self-acceptance, of self-education, of self-improvement, of self-care, of self-reflection, of self-awareness, of self-affirmation, of self-analysis, of self-exploration, of self-transformation, of self-revelation, of rebirth, of awakening, of identification, of correction, or of celebration, would be complete without a "deep dive" into the ancestral data. Basically the above words and expressions are pretty much interchangeable synonyms.

The outcome of this holy war is personal growth, personal happiness, and inner peace. And there certainly is a connection between personal inner peace and peace on Earth.

This journey of salvation and painful self-knowledge, and of course of hate to self-love and love for all people, is certainly a long one, and there are no short cuts, but it will leave you feeling "renewed", liberated, "never better", deeply fulfilled, and absolutely magical. The journey will be hard, they will be very painful and exhausting, and they will also be challenging, scary, and raw, but the rewards will be worth it. It is full of immeasurable rewards of liberation and rapturous joy, the likes of which you've never felt before.

This is an understandable addiction, compulsion, and obsession -- in a time when race and ethnic issues are constantly up for discussion, we look more and more to GENETICS as a kind of barometer for civilization and for how much progress we're actually making. I do see it as a barometer for change. This sentence cannot be validly described in any other way:

We think we are higher beings in control but are slaves to genetics.

I really could not have expressed any better myself the theme I am trying to capture. We're all slaves to it. We are all slaves in one way or another, to genetics.

There is no free lunch in biology and genetics.

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It's what I call "no money, no honey, no funny".

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