Dutch are not Germans. They are related through the Germanic linguistic branch but they are a separate peoples. Like Macedonians and Slovenians.
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Dutch are not Germans. They are related through the Germanic linguistic branch but they are a separate peoples. Like Macedonians and Slovenians.
Germans are much better people imo, and dutchies are much taller
Dutch people haven't been 'German' since the 15th century that is definitely long enough for a seperate identity. Are Danish people a form of German ? The Gastein Convention was not until 1864 and Danish people are not German. Germanic is not the samething as German. Beyond that , in my view, I could be wrong , genetically Dutch people are between the British and Germans/Scandinavians and German people are between the British an the Poles genetically. The Average German has more slavic admixture where Dutch is kind of like a Germanic French genetically for lack of a better term. Its true in the SouthWest Germany is more Frenchified than the rest but Dutch are more low Germanic Frenchified rather than high Germanic Frenchified and I mean in terms of genes not culture as parts of Belgium are Frenchified culturally but not the Netherlands per se. I think South Dutch and Limbourgh are more German-like on average but I mean Dutch are in general kind of like NorthWest Germans but not quite. At least that is my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
When I say Dutch are Germanic French I mean Dutch are Frankish basically since the average Dutch person is not Frisian.
Dutch are more Germanic than Germans
Probably, but it is mistake to equate Germanic with nordid or nordish. The ancient Germanic tribes might have more uniformly nordid and surely the Dutch have a high amount of blonde hair but the average Dutch person probably has brown hair. I find this forum nordicizes the Dutch. The Nordish concept was created to artifically unite butthurt inferior celts with Germanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
Here an example of a non-blonde Dutch person Simon Van Der Stel :
Perhaps. Meta-ethnicites are matriarchal bs. You learn to speak from your mother. Nations on the other hand are built by men.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond007
No. They don't even speak the same language. They were, before Germans came to mean the peoples of modern Germany.
In English, Dutch and Germans alike were called Dutch (or Almain) prior to the establishment of the Dutch Republic in the 1500s, only then was Germans used, for those east of the Netherlands.
Even into the 20th century, people with German names/origins were habitually called 'Dutch', 'Dutchie' in English-speaking countries. Maybe sometimes the Germans encouraged it to keep a low-profile.
Germans have Baltic and Slavic admix in the East. The Prussians were a Baltic people before they were GermanizedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dick
That´s not true, dutch is not as similar to german as many people think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Óttar
Of course, there are many similarities and the dialects in particular overlap. But it's not a German dialect at all.