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  1. As for Greece: 2019: ...

    As for Greece:

    2019:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/2019_Greek_legislative_election_-_Vote_Strength.svg

    September 2015:
    ...
  2. The Netherlands, traditionally votes more...

    The Netherlands, traditionally votes more conservative (apart from Groningen and Friesland (where the Left now lost as well) which have traditional reasons and the big cities which unfortunately...
  3. Here in the Netherlands, most main parties are...

    Here in the Netherlands, most main parties are actually right-wing although we do have some on the Left.

    2017:
    ...
  4. So, Zeno, per your rep.point: yes, the Greeks...

    So, Zeno, per your rep.point: yes, the Greeks want free hand-outs and a bigger government, otherwise the left wouldn't be in power for so long. But that's the problem with socialism: at the end...
  5. ^ However we would. If we leave: I'd say four...

    ^ However we would. If we leave: I'd say four years, five years. If we stay - we'd be in the same boat for a decade because we also have to support the indolent and insolent south of the Alps.
  6. You're not going to get a recovery of the same...

    You're not going to get a recovery of the same when your structure is so weak. Nobody is going to get that in under a year. If you would stay with the European Union, I'd say that that 6 percent or...
  7. But we can also see here who has been ruling for...

    But we can also see here who has been ruling for much of the last decade:

    https://images.dailykos.com/images/345435/large/Governments_of_Europe.png?1483326098

    In other words: Greece votes...
  8. As I said: very recently then.

    As I said: very recently then.
  9. Just admit that it doesn't matter who rules...

    Just admit that it doesn't matter who rules Greece - the Greeks will fuck it up and then ask the North for money.
  10. 9 months ago: https://i.imgur.com/dIeWFNp.png...

    9 months ago:

    https://i.imgur.com/dIeWFNp.png

    In Italy most of the parties involved are left-wing.
  11. Came to power VERY recently then. But the others...

    Came to power VERY recently then. But the others are all run by the Left. Funny how that goes.
  12. That's what the Greeks like to claim but nobody...

    That's what the Greeks like to claim but nobody believes them. Isn't that a bitch ?
  13. And Eurostat provides on the data provided by...

    And Eurostat provides on the data provided by the... you guessed it.. national statistical agencies. In other words: you make up your own shit, send it to Eurostat, they stamp it and make it seem...
  14. And who is having left-wing governments at the...

    And who is having left-wing governments at the moment:

    Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

    No wonder they're failing.
  15. You don't seem to understand that the PvdA hasn't...

    You don't seem to understand that the PvdA hasn't been in a coalition for a long, long time. Nice try, though.
  16. Oh yes. I am not impressed by Greek bullshit. ...

    Oh yes. I am not impressed by Greek bullshit.

    Soon the old times will be back because now in the West Philohellinism is dead:
    ...
  17. And then you fucked the ECB for twenty years. ...

    And then you fucked the ECB for twenty years. Rutte ? Rutte is an idiot. But nothing like the Greek government. Although - I can easily blame Rutte for taking away money from the Dutch healthcare...
  18. Greek bookkeeping.

    Greek bookkeeping.
  19. You know what the good thing is, Turkobanian, ...

    You know what the good thing is, Turkobanian, that Morrocans and Turks can't get rid of their original citizenship. You know what they means for us ? That any new government can quickly cancel...
  20. And ? In Greece it will be no different....

    And ? In Greece it will be no different. Particularly since we're not going to re-open those borders any time soon.
  21. Says the Greek economic bureau. The Greeks and...

    Says the Greek economic bureau. The Greeks and their bookkeeping. Next they'll be telling us that there is no corruption, everybody pays their taxes and your banks are totally solvent. Oh wait ! ...
  22. China doesn't have the world's biggest economy: ...

    China doesn't have the world's biggest economy: that would still be the United States and with China's industry already trickling out, their own population ageing without being replaced (a result of...
  23. Nice try, but no. Nice try though, Turkobanian.

    Nice try, but no. Nice try though, Turkobanian.
  24. Which still relied on the figures given by...

    Which still relied on the figures given by others. You really don't understand how economists get their figures, right ? They merely compile those figures provided by national bureaus. And knowing...
  25. So this is clearly why, the pendulum will move to...

    So this is clearly why, the pendulum will move to North-Western Europe as well as the U.S. The South had a good run under the EEC and EU but the moment they (or us - those who pay your bills)...
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