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Iberians have more WHG than North Italians, Iberians aren't more northern and haven't more Steppe than North Italians.

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North is where the north Swedish are. West and North are two different cardinal points.

Iberians are more western than northern Italians, not more northern.


https://image.ibb.co/fz0Qnz/Euro_PCA.jpg

This the result, I suppose

http://www.cinemaqui.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/o-abra%C3%A7o-da-serpente-destaque.jpg

The image you shared is not even a PCA to begin with.

What is really funny is a South American like you with only a great-great-grandfather of Italian origin trying to explain to an Italian what Italians are.

Do these linguistic proximities really mean something? I have great doubts that a French can better understand the Gallo-Italic dialects than Italian/Tuscan. Once I heard an old man speak...

the pic you chose is a bit weird, this is the same Corsican man in better pics

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My point is very clear. The G25 uses for the North Italians only a sample from Bergamo Lombardy and that sample is not representative of all North Italians, since this thread is about this. For your...

My point was completely different. You're defending the G25 for your own reasons that I don't even care about knowing.

This is just your opinion, since the G25 is an amateur tool that in a few years will be overtaken by other amateur tools.

Whether this specific PCA is accurate or not, PCAs are used in academic...

I guess the faulty tools are just the ones that show something you don't like.

Not exactly, the PCA shows more details that the G25 cannot show because it is undersampled. South Tirol is not close to the Germanic populations, it is just part of the Germanic populations. No...

G25 is worthless because is undersampled, Bergamo is Lombardy, and as you can see the genetics of Italians is even more complicated.

https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

judge for yourself

https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

Well, SI41 is definitely closer to Spaniards than to Northwest Africans.

this is where SI41 plots

https://i.imgur.com/8Z6F5J0.jpg

Crusader SI41

MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 32.35
2 Caucasian 22.82
3 Steppe 14.22

Ashkenazi, Sicilians and Southern Italians don't plot with Lebanese people

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Both.

The question of who is darker is of little interest to me. However, the Iberians are more genetically "west" than more "north" of northern Italians.

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I'd say Spaniards are more western shifted than North Italians, not more northern shifted

https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg