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    Elite Avar mtDNA samples from Hungary

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/09/13/415760.full.pdf

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/09/13/415760.DC1/415760-1.pdf

    Inner Asian maternal genetic origin of...
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    unknown. probably Q and N though.

    unknown.

    probably Q and N though.
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    Obviously GEDmatch error. We had a sample from...

    Obviously GEDmatch error.

    We had a sample from Ankara whose DNA was extracted from Alkan et al 2014. He scored 7% SSA and 14% East Eurasian.
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    Turks who score 3% East Eurasian only are not...

    Turks who score 3% East Eurasian only are not Turks or mixed Turks.

    Turkish average is around 10-15%. It can go up to 21.7% (highest i've ever seen was in a study unfortunately so no gedmatch...
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    According to Aren this is the ethnic make up of...

    According to Aren this is the ethnic make up of Western Turks

    Armenian,35.4
    Ottoman,27.6
    Bulgarian,25.4
    Greek_Central_Anatolia,11.6


    That's right. Ethnic Western Anatolian Turks are more...
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    Stop talking about your retarded "worses the mix"...

    Stop talking about your retarded "worses the mix" shit please.

    Your western Turk nmonte results itt are also a joke.
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    purest Turks? Not confirmed yet. If those samples...

    purest Turks? Not confirmed yet. If those samples are indeed proto Turkic, i'd say Yakuts and Tuvans.
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    " I get a much better fit than him." yes those...

    " I get a much better fit than him."

    yes those Bulgarians are obviously native to Kayseri.

    Also for some reasons the Kayseri Turk is much more Armenian than Central Anatolian Greek, your...
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    Post IE samples? Like Göktürk ones? Already...

    Post IE samples?

    Like Göktürk ones?

    Already posted them. But here they are


    Kit Number: M853162
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    You could also be right. But if the Turkic...

    You could also be right.

    But if the Turkic language family is related to language families like Tungusic and Mongolic, your theory is wrong. As it implies that the original speakers were probably...
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    They're not proto mongols. There's no C...

    They're not proto mongols. There's no C haplogroup (Y-DNA one not mt-dna) among them.

    What makes me think that they're proto Turks is the frequency of haplogroup Q.

    A Göktürk sample had Q-L715...
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    Here are other samples. No gedmatch results...

    Here are other samples. No gedmatch results though. Just their age and haplogroups (first haplogroup is their Y-DNA and second is MT-DNA)

    note: EBA means Early Bronze Age and EN means Early...
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    The Bronze Age baikal tribesman sample has...

    The Bronze Age baikal tribesman sample has considerable caucasoid admixture (8-10%)

    the other sample is 99-100% mongoloid.
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    Proto-Turkic Gedmatch results?

    2 samples from Neolithic and Early Bronze Age Baikal were uploaded to Gedmatch. They were hunter gatherers. These samples.... are probably ancestors of Turkics. They're either proto Turkics or proto...
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    Dodecad K12b is a shit calculator. Maraş is...

    Dodecad K12b is a shit calculator. Maraş is around 10-11% actually. Gümüşhane sample is also around 19%, not 17%, same as Muğla Yörüks (19.50%). for some reasons Dodecad destroys like 1% or 2% of...
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    Obviously they did. Turkmen ethnicity dates back...

    Obviously they did. Turkmen ethnicity dates back to 9th century. But they were not in Afghanistan. But they're still more mongoloid than other Turkmen populations which makes me think that they're...
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    Actually that map is outdated the most recent...

    Actually that map is outdated

    the most recent map here

    https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-301b7cc3b36392aecc97c9bf625af636
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    Funny how your results contrast with actual...

    Funny how your results contrast with actual nMonte results of Cappadocian Turks (Kayseri, Niğde etc)

    [1] "distance%=2.8241"

    Turk_Cappadocia

    Greek_Cappadocia 51.9
    Turkmen_Uzbekistan 29.7...
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    4-6% mongoloid? Haven't you checked what I...

    4-6% mongoloid?

    Haven't you checked what I sent?

    https://abload.de/img/eastjouzky8uw7.png


    Turks score between 10-15% on average, it can even reach 22% (saw it in a study) or 20% (muğla...
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    No. He's closest to Afghan Turkmens. He's...

    No. He's closest to Afghan Turkmens. He's slightly more mongoloid though. Which is understandable.
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    Plus, the concentration of the Anatolian...

    Plus, the concentration of the Anatolian population is also important. To my knowledge, Arabs depopulated South Anatolia (Adana, Hatay) and Central Anatolia. So the bulk of the population was in...
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    1- "Turkic admixture" itself is larger than your...

    1- "Turkic admixture" itself is larger than your country. Turkics are very diverse people.

    2- As mentioned in my second post, if the Turks who came to Anatolia were around 30% mongoloid, then the...
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    don't argue with him he's for some reasons...

    don't argue with him

    he's for some reasons obsessed with pre-turkic Anatolia and claims that we're 100% same as them. Even though that's debunked by literally every source from personal results to...
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    "Even 3 mil isn't enough to absorb genetically 10...

    "Even 3 mil isn't enough to absorb genetically 10 million Greko-Persians"

    What makes you think that Turks settled in every corner of Anatolia? Eastern Anatolia was mostly Armenian. It was later...
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    From wikipedia ...

    From wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification#Number_of_Pastoralists_of_Turkic_origin_in_Anatolia

    Number of nomads of Turkic origin that migrated to Anatolia is a matter of...
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