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J-L70 is too young.
Around 93% of Ashkenazi R1a (keeping in mind R1a is 8.9% of Ashkenazim) falls under R-Y2619, which in turn falls under R-CTS6 - which is a MENA clade. The closest relations to this Levite branch are...
Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 1.7004% / 0.01700350
73.6 Jewish_Sephardi
19.0 Scandinavian
2.8 Jewish_Ashkenazi
2.8 Volga-Uralic_Mari
1.8 Southcentral-Asian_Balochi
That's not quite the case - I remember seeing a graphic (not sure as to its validity) that had J-L24 as the largest J2a group in the Levant. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, but it...
They're certainly not Roman introgressed, if that is what you mean.
Our Levantine ancestors would have been largely Canaanite, with some Aegean ancestry. We can see this in the Beirut_IAIII samples I used:
Target: Levant_Beirut_IAIII
Distance: 1.3633% /...
The idea that Western Jews are half Levantine, half Northern Italian holds no water and makes no historical sense. I'd suggest you read this thread: ...
Yeah, this is rubbish.
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Based on currently available ancient samples, we can model Iraqi Jews like this:
Target: Iraqi_Jew
Distance: 1.8658% / 0.01865843
57.6 Levant_Sidon_MBA
38.2 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA...
Do you realize the first two models you presented are using the same tool I used?
The tool is very much credible. The best available.
FYI, TUR_Alalakh are Amorites:
Distance...
Levantine ancestry is evident amongst all these groups. A simple 4-way model makes it quite evident - although I usually prefer selecting the populations myself:
Target: Mountain_Jew
Distance:...
Effectively a mainland Greek/Balkan source.
Target: Sephardic_Jew
Distance: 1.2139% / 0.01213877
49.4 Levant_Beirut_IAIII
31.6 HRV_IA
11.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
8.0 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
Target: Ashkenazi_Poland
Distance: 0.7560% /...
3-way models:
Target: Assyrian
Distance: 1.0481% / 0.01048093 | R3P
45.0 TUR_Arslantepe_EBA
31.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
23.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic
Target: Mandean
Distance: 1.4881% / 0.01488080...
This is largely how I model them nowadays:
Target: Georgian_Jew
Distance: 1.6494% / 0.01649408
61.4 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
31.8 Levant_Beirut_IAIII
6.8 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
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J-L70, which is most likely Levantine
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18818-Jews-and-J-L70
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19736-J-L70-Presence-in-the-Middle-East-North-Africa
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Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 3.2908% / 0.03290794
45.6 Ancient_Levant
29.8 Steppe
21.6 EEF
3.0 Ibero_Maurissian
Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 2.6150% / 0.02615003
48.8 East_Med
21.6 North_Atlantic
9.8 Red_Sea
9.2 West_Asian
8.2 West_Med
1.4 South_Asian
0.6 Sub-Saharan
0.4 Northeast_African
Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 1.9051% / 0.01905135 | R2P
78.9 Sephardic_Jew
21.1 Icelandic
Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 1.7328% / 0.01732797 | R3P
78.7 Sephardic_Jew...
Never said we were. His stance is that Ashkenazim are purely converted Greek Islanders/Southern Italians/Greek Mainlanders, which is simply false and very amusing.
Elhaik is a joke.
lul