View Poll Results: Which of the following Frech regional identities do you consider to be Germanic

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  • Flemmish

    89 60.96%
  • Mosellan Lorrain

    53 36.30%
  • Alsatian

    80 54.79%
  • Normand

    58 39.73%
  • Brittany

    17 11.64%
  • Other Oïl (Northern) French

    20 13.70%
  • Arpitan French

    3 2.05%
  • Occitan French

    3 2.05%
  • None of them

    37 25.34%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
    Anyway, Franks in the V-VI century have been estimated in about 300-350'000 people ; the total population of GALLIA after the fall of roman empire was something like 4.5 - 5 millions of inhabitants. It's objectively 7-8% of population.
    At the time of the fall of Rome it was around ~12 million, around 8-9+ million at the time of Charlemagne (350 years later) and down to a record low of ~6-7 million a few decades later (with the Carolingian empire shattering and invasions/pillagers coming in again), which is pretty much the population level we had during the Bronze age. It never got lower and after that the demography starting going up pretty fast with the record from Roman time broken during the XIth or XIIth century (thanks to stable monarchy, monachism spreading and greatly improving the land and agriculture etc.).

    Nota bene : I'm using numbers from Histoire de la population française by Jacques Dupâquier. It's a bit old now (1988) but it still serves as a references. There have been more recent estimations based on archeology that give a number of around 12-14 million inhabitants in Gaul during the century before the Roman invasion.

    Estimations of Frankish immigration range from 100 000 to 350 000. So it was indeed pretty negligible. Like most of those migrations, there are only traces in places the really concentrated. But it's their political and cultural impact that matters anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudel View Post
    At the time of the fall of Rome it was around ~12 million, around 8-9+ million at the time of Charlemagne (350 years later) and down to a record low of ~6-7 million a few decades later (with the Carolingian empire shattering and invasions/pillagers coming in again), which is pretty much the population level we had during the Bronze age. It never got lower and after that the demography starting going up pretty fast with the record from Roman time broken during the XIth or XIIth century (thanks to stable monarchy, monachism spreading and greatly improving the land and agriculture etc.).

    Nota bene : I'm using numbers from Histoire de la population française by Jacques Dupâquier. It's a bit old now (1988) but it still serves as a references. There have been more recent estimations based on archeology that give a number of around 12-14 million inhabitants in Gaul during the century before the Roman invasion.

    Estimations of Frankish immigration range from 100 000 to 350 000. So it was indeed pretty negligible. Like most of those migrations, there are only traces in places the really concentrated. But it's their political and cultural impact that matters anyway.
    Just like longobards in North Italy; 250,000 people in a total population of 5 million people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loxias View Post
    Following our discussion here.
    Here is a little poll for you all to vote in, and of course options to discuss.
    Please explain your choices.

    (thanks Aemma for editing )
    The people who roots in the far-north of France have Germanic roots from mainly Franks but also Saxons and even Danish Vikings! The Hauts region is not that different from Belgium in terms of Germanic Y-DNA.

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    The French are fundamentally a Romance people but with strong Germanic influences.

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    Ce que doit faire la France, c'est d'investir plus dans la science et les technologies de pointe pour continuer à être une puissance, éviter la dépendance, réinventer sa diplomatie aussi

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    I think of the French as Gallo-Romans, foremost...with Germanic influences.
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