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    Early Medieval Slavic tribes in East Germany (names from primary sources written in Latin):



    Those 60 Slavic tribes listed in the map could be divided into few ethno-linguistic groups, including Sorbs and Polabians (Obotrites and Veleti were two major subdivisions of Polabian-speakers):



    Areas in Northern Germany where Slavic was spoken as late as the 1500s and 1600s:
    (this does not include Sorbian-speakers in Lusatia, but only Polabian-speakers)

    https://s29.postimg.org/t1g5mfv45/Polabians.png



    This map shows areas of present-day Germany where Slavic languages were still spoken as late as the 1500s. It is based on several sources including publications by Polish historian Adam Sengebusch. As you can see coastal areas of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern were already mostly Germanized, but deeper inland there were still Polabian-speaking areas, and Sorbian-speaking areas to the south of Berlin:



    "Population Loss Caused by War and Disease During the Thirty Years' War":



    Polabian language got extinct at some point after 1890 (at that time there were still 585 speakers):

    https://archive.org/stream/archivfrs...e/318/mode/2up



    Decline of Sorbian language:

    https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-b...2?htmlOnce=yes

    https://s2.postimg.org/6gppe3wop/Sorbian_Lusatian.png

    http://language-diversity.eu/en/know...n-der-lausitz/

    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Polski strong.
    National-linguistic and religious structure of North-East Poland in 1931 census (but it is possible that the number of Non-Catholic Poles was inflated, as national identity of those people was "uncertain"):




    Number of Poles in former Kresy according to official census data:

    1a+b = North-East Poland ------ 1,663,888 Poles (1931 Polish census)

    2 = South-East Poland ---------- 2,249,703 Poles (1931 Polish census)
    1.2 = Soviet Belarus ------------ 97,498 Poles (1926 Soviet census)
    2.2 = Soviet Ukraine ------------ 476,435 Poles (1926 Soviet census)
    1.3 = Lithuania ------------------ 202,026 Poles (1923 elections results)
    1.4 = Latvia --------------------- 59,374 Poles (1930 Latvian census)
    3 = Soviet Russia --------------- 197,827 Poles (1926 Soviet census)

    TOTAL ---------------------------- 5 million people (1926-1931 data)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Размышляющий View Post
    the borders on map that concern Caucasus are not accurate, looks very amateur
    It's not enough! Looking for sources is problematic on the smaller languages and I want more sources, so if you know something about the Caucasian ethnoreligious history, please share with me!

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    Baltic tribes, 12th century:



    Old Prussian language got extinct in the early 18th century (around year 1710) according to Gerullis G., "Zur Beurteilung des altpreussischen Enchiridions", Streitberg Festgabe, Leipzig 1924, page 100 and Trautmann R., "Die altpreussischen Sprachdenkmäler", Göttingen 1910, page VIII. The last speakers of Prussian lived in the Sambian Peninsula (it was still majority Prussian-speaking in 1500-1600).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    https://s29.postimg.org/t1g5mfv45/Polabians.png
    This map shows areas of present-day Germany where Slavic languages were still spoken as late as the 1500s. It is based on several sources including publications by Polish historian Adam Sengebusch. As you can see coastal areas of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern were already mostly Germanized, but deeper inland there were still Polabian-speaking areas, and Sorbian-speaking areas to the south of Berlin:
    "Population Loss Caused by War and Disease During the Thirty Years' War":
    Thanks this source about the Polabians. So an residue survived until the Thirty Years War!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Thanks this source about the Polabians. So an residue survived until the Thirty Years War!
    Yeah, it is based on various sources, including sources which mention given names of inhabitants. If people in some village had Slavic given names, it means that they were still Slavic-speaking.

    There are also sources which say directly that Slavic was still spoken there in the 1500s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Yeah, it is based on various sources, including sources which mention given names of inhabitants. If people in some village had Slavic given names, it means that they were still Slavic-speaking.
    There are also sources which say directly that Slavic was still spoken there in the 1500s.
    How extensive is this source? Taxpayer census or parochial census? For example we have an almost complete 1495 taxpayer census from Hungary and that is proper to the etnicization of the kingdom's population based on the names. These stats are the best sources from the medieval!

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    blogen, unless I receive the credits I deserve, I will take this matter into court.

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    Polish areas in Lithuania and Belarus after WW2:



    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    How extensive is this source? Taxpayer census or parochial census?
    It is extensive. Both, if I remember correctly.

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    Very good Hungarian maps about "In-Between Europe" (Köztes-Európa):

    http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro

    3. Köztes-Európa történelmi tájai:



    5. A finn nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897/1910:



    6. Az észt nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897:



    7. A lett nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897:



    8. A litván nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897:



    9. A lengyel nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897/1910:



    10. A cseh nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1910:



    11. A szlovák nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1910:



    12. A magyar nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1910:



    13. A szlovén nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1910:



    14. A horvát nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1910:



    15. A szerb nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897/1910:



    16. Az albán nemzet az európai Törökországban, 1880:



    17. A román nemzet Köztes-Európában, 1897/1900/1910:



    18. Bolgárok az európai Törökországban, 1912:



    19. Görögök az európai Törökországban, 1912:



    20. Görögök a Török Birodalomban, 1895 és 1914:



    26. Zsidók a lengyel területeken, 1897/1910:


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