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    The Rom trolls are boring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The Rom trolls are boring!
    In 750AD there is bebe poo poo green on the map, yet there is no explanation for it on to the left.It's okay, everyone makes mistakes, you can add my name at the end at contributors section.

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    Typical hungarian, no thanks no nothing.Where is the central european spirit you were talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post



    the borders on map that concern Caucasus are not accurate, looks very amateur

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Nice atlas but the extent of German language is overestimated for 1500 and 1750.

    Here is the extent of German (blue color) around 1600 (the end of XVI century):



    This is for year 1847 (the map is German-made so - if anything - pro-German biased):



    German-speakers = green
    Polish-speakers = yellow (Polaken)
    Lithuanian-speakers = violet



    This is for early 20th century (last decade of 19th century, first two of 20th century):

    https://forums.civfanatics.com/threa...#post-13706679



    Data on ethno-linguistic and religious structure of East Prussia in the early 1800s:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4499499

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4499466

    Ethnic structure of the eastern provinces of the Kingdom of Prussia in 1816-1831:



    Estimates of ethnic structure of Silesia in 1350 and Western Pomerania in 1300:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4570530

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4570517

    Ethnolinguistic map of Middle & Upper Silesia in 1790 and in 1890 (German data):

    https://s10.postimg.org/l517d31xj/Ethnic_Silesia.png



    Ethno-linguistic map of Silesia in the middle of the 17th century (ca. year 1650):

    red/pink - Polish majority
    blue - German majority
    green - Czech majority



    Blue = German, Red = Polish, Green = Czech, Yellow = Sorbian (ca. year 1650):



    Same but ca. year 1333:



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    Some texts:

    1) Joseph Partsch: "Schlesien Teil I – Das ganze Land", Breslau 1896, pages 364-367 (chapter "die Sprachgrenze 1790 und 1890"):
    (Partsch writes about Poles who lived around Breslau, to the north, east and south of it):





    2) Robert Semple: "Observations made on a tour from Hamburg through Berlin, Gorlitz, and Breslau...", London 1814, pages 122-123:
    (Semple writes about Poles who lived between Leuthen [Lutynia] and Gross Gohlau [Gałów], to the west of Breslau):



    3) Documents from the Central Archive of Provinz Schlesien in Breslau, from the 19th century:

    According to these documents in 1826 the ethnic structure of the Laskowitzer Dominium located near Wrocław (Breslau) - which included settlements Laskowice (Laskowitz), Piekary (Beckern), Chwałowice (Quallwitz), Jelcz (Jeltsch), Dziupliny (Daupe), Gross Duppine, Klein Duppine, Zindel, Neuvorwerk (Nowy Dwor) and Ratowice (Rattwitz) - was 89% Polish (391 Wirte) and 11% German (48 Wirte):



    Here about Jerzy (George) Treska, who in 1826 lived in Neuvorwerk (Nowy Dwor), near Breslau (Wroclaw):

    Treska was among ca. 5000 Poles from around Breslau, protesting against Germanization policies in 1824:



    According to these documents, in 1826 - 1827 "Polish community" ("polnische Gemeinde") from Twardogóra (Festenberg) protested against sermons in German language and in 1811 "polnische Gemeinde" from Minken (Minkowice) near Ohlau (Oława) protested against abolishing sermons in Polish:

    http://blog-n-roll.pl/pl/o-śląskich-...h#.ViApz0qTk8E

    4) Rudolf Virchow, "Mittheilungen über die in Oberschlesien herrschende Typhus-Epidemie", in 1848 wrote "Ganz Oberschlesien ist polnisch" ("Entire Upper Silesia is Polish"):



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    Back to the 16th century:

    Barthel Stein, "Descriptio Tocius Silesie et Civitatis Regie Vratislaviensis", wrote about Silesia in 1513:

    "(...) Zwei Volksstämme, die sich nicht nur nach ihren Wohnsitzen, sondern auch nach ihren Sitten scheiden, bewohnen es; den nach Westen und Süden gelegenen Theil nehmen die Deutschen ein, den Theil nach Osten und Norden zu die Polenö beide trennt als eine ganz sichere Grenze die Oder von der Neißemündung ab, sodaß auch in den Städten diesseits die deutsche, jenseits die polnische Sprach vorherrscht. Man erkennt zwischen beiden Völkern einen starken Gegensatz. (...)"

    In English:

    "(...) It [Silesia] is inhabited by two nations, distinct from each other not only in terms of territories they occupy, but also in terms of customs; Western and Southern parts are inhabited by Germans, while Eastern and Northern parts are inhabited by Poles, both nations are divided by safe boundary along the Oder River starting from the outlet of the Neisse River in such a way, that also in cities on one side of the river we can hear German speech, while in cities on the other side by contrast we can hear Polish speech. Between these two nations there are strong differences. (...)"

    Johann Gottlieb Fichte wrote in 1791 about German-speaking Catholics in Lower Silesia:



    Oppeln Regency, data from censuses of 1890, 1900, 1905 and 1910:



    Changes in ethnic structure of Oppeln Regency from 1819 to 1910:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._Upper_Silesia

    Year 1819 - 67% Poles (377,100) and 29% Germans (162,600), the rest mostly Czechs.

    Year 1910 - 53% Poles (1,169,340) and 40% Germans (884,045), the rest mostly Czechs.

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    Maps of the retreat of Kashubian-speaking area from the Middle Ages onwards:

    http://en.kaszubia.com/kashubians/history/maps

    Progress of Germanization in Pomerania between the 16th and the 20th centuries:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Nice atlas but the extent of German language is overestimated for 1500 and 1750.

    Here is the extent of German (blue color) around 1600 (the end of XVI century):



    This is for year 1847 (the map is German-made so - if anything - pro-German biased):



    This is for early 20th century (last decade of 19th century, first two of 20th century):

    https://forums.civfanatics.com/threa...#post-13706679



    Data on ethno-linguistic and religious structure of East Prussia in the early 1800s:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4499499

    Ethnic structure of the eastern provinces of the Kingdom of Prussia in 1816-1831:



    Estimates of ethnic structure of Silesia in 1350 and Western Pomerania in 1300:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4570530

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4570517
    Polski strong. Germans all must learn Polish.

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    Western borders of Poland in the 1600s and the 1700s:

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