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Thread: 'Swarthy' European vs. MENA

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    Euro Meds have far larger Cranials.


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    A lot of MENA have this cross eyed dead eyed look to them not found in Europeans.

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    I think MENA nose is noticeably more hooked than Southern Euros, and the eyelids are droopier.

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    Small differences because both are predominantely mediterranean populations, though us Trans-Mediterraneans are more common in North Africa while in Europe it's usually restricted to Andalusía and Southern Italy. Also Berberids in North Africa are purer, so shorter, more robust (heavier cromagnoid features), wider-nosed (mesorrhine tendencies) and more dolichocephalic. Paleo-Sardinians are basically absent from North Africa, same goes for the so-called Alpinoids of Africa.

    Only exception is that outside the coastal areas, many North Africans may have SSA mixture (Trans-Med + Moorish intermediates) in the west and Mid-eastern blood in the east (Libyid, Coptic, Targid). Few North Africans may also show Guanche Canarid traits which gives them ligther pigmentation. Likewise, european mediterraneans may show partial Taurid, Alpine, Cromagnon or rarely peripheral Nordic features (from the Goths, Normans, Celtiberians, Guanches, Basques...)

    A North African-passing European, and a European-passing North African will always essentially be of a Mediterranean type. Sometimes Taurid influences (Dinaric, Armenian, Littorid, Basque) may be confused for the Middle Eastern tendencies in Northeastern Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincher View Post
    What features make it so that the swarthiest, most exotic Sicilian or Andalusian, is still identifiably distinct from a lighter North African or West Asian? In other words, where's the line drawn?
    I don't know about the balls of the Sicilian, but the Andalusian has more hair in that area.

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    The eyes and nose are different. MENA eyelids in particular have a certain shape that would look out of place in Europe. IDK how to describe it but you know it when you see it.

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    MENA are significantly uglier, they tend to have bulging noses and baggy eyes. Anyone who disagrees is severely underestimating the ugliness of non-Europeans.

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    It's in the facial structure. MENA have a wide nose bridge and the nose "slopes" outwards, giving the eyes a sleepy look to them. It's a very distinct look, and probably fits better in India/Pakistan than in Southern Europe.

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    There is no line tons of southern europeans could pass as Menas as either typical or atypical south europeans and Menas are the same race Mediterranean I
    can usually tell apart med or dark looking north and central europeans with pure Mediterranean southern europeans

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