Battle of Kosovo, the truth

[RandoBloom]

Anyone interested in it?




Source Joseph von Hammer

This is just part 1. I am scaning more of the book and more will be available shortly
Let us help refute Serb miths and put truth out

[RandoBloom]

Part 2, the preparations for battle, Ottoman arival on Kosovo and description of the battlefield as well as description of Ottoman war-councill.

[RandoBloom]

I forgot that this might interest someone who doesnt speak Bosnian.
So shortly:


During the siege of Konya, city of Murads Son in law, Murad ordered that no one loots or harms the inhabitants in any ways under pain of death.
Serbs broke the orders and started looting the city so some were captured and executed promptly. That got the Serbs to leave Ottomans and go to Serbia, where they told what the Turks did.
So Serbia rebeled, counting on suport of Bosnia and even Bulgaria, whose king signed a secret pact of alliance with Serbian ruler Lazar.
Bosniak and Serb forces ambushed the Turks and out of force of 20 000 men only 5 000 managed to run away. In that battle Ottomans lost the bulk of their standing army and had to rely on troops of Asian ottoman vasals (Aydin, Mentese, Saruhan, Karaman)đ
Against them stood united forces of Bosnia, Serbia and Bulgaria.
Tatar duke broke his alegiance to Ottomans.
Turks first went to deal with Bulgaria, defeating King Sisman on numerous ocasions, forcing him to ask for peace.
Turks agreed if Silistria was to be given to them.
In the meantime Ali-pasha sent an army to Kosovo field, the southernmost part of Bosnia, where Bosnian, Serbian and Albanian borders meet.

At the same tim, Lazar, ruler of Serbs, armed and prepared for attack and defense. Instead of waiting for Ottomans to do something he ordered his vasal Dimitri to attack Ottoman held city on Border of Bulgaria and Serbia.
He captured the fort, but the Ottomans retook it soon after.


As the troops advanced an emisary of Lazar, sent to spy the ottomans came with an insult to get the Murad to fight sooner.
Murat held a war council with the elders.

Murats troops stood against more numerous allied forces of Serbia, Bosnia and Albania.
A council was held to decide how to fight this more numerous enemy, and some proposed using camels to disorient and confuse the enemy who didnt see such animals.
Other side, suported by Prince Bayezid dismised that as "cowardly" and unpious.

The decision was that they will fight fairly and not use such tricks.
At the end of the night Murat was desperate because wind blew dust into his troops, and if that would continue tomorow they would be in a dificult situation.

[epirot]

Anyone interested in it?

Truth coming from an ex-serb mudjahedin... hmm isn't this a contradiction in terms?

[RandoBloom]

Truth coming from an ex-serb mudjahedin... hmm isn't this a contradiction in terms?

Comming from Joseph von Hammer and his book, which is expensive and I am offering to share it with everyone so that people can save some money.
I am uploading the next part tonight

[La Misse]

Hrulj, with 2 words what does that say? Can't read it all :icon_sad:

[RandoBloom]

Hrulj, with 2 words what does that say? Can't read it all :icon_sad:

It explains what lead to battle of Kosovo - the execution of Serbian soldiers who broke orders not to kill civilians of Konya and subsequent Serb rebelion because of that.
It also shows who ruled Kosovo at the time, Bosnia, and how Serbs, by using Kosovo as battleground forced Bosnia into battle.
It also tells the numbers of troops and preparations for battle on Ottoman side, and war council.
All that can be found in these books:
http://www.amazon.com/Histoire-De-LE.../dp/B004YWROJ0
If you hapen to have 1254$ extra in your pocket.
I am simply scaning the books and underlining the important part by paint and posting them here

[epirot]

Comming from Joseph von Hammer and his book, which is expensive and I am offering to share it with everyone so that people can save some money.
I am uploading the next part tonight

Joseph who? Pretty sounding Jewish-German name btw... not quite the quality source on Serbian matters, but i guess good enough for your self-hating anti-slav purpose.

[Apis]

Anyone interested in it?




Source Joseph von Hammer

This is just part 1. I am scaning more of the book and more will be available shortly
Let us help refute Serb miths and put truth out

Hrulj never ceases to amuse me. He takes extracts from a book by 'Nerkez Smailagić' and claims it is the work of Joseph von Hammer. 'Bosniaks' have a tendency to fabricate history like the Macedonians do, so I wouldn't take anything Hrulj says seriously. He desperately tries to draw attention away from the fact that his ancestor was a traitor to everything he believed in.

[RandoBloom]

Joseph who? Pretty sounding Jewish-German name btw... not quite the quality source on Serbian matters, but i guess good enough for your self-hating anti-slav purpose.

Joseph vonn Hammer, a very prolific author of several historical works of the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_...mmer-Purgstall

Hrulj never ceases to amuse me. He takes extracts from a book by 'Nerkez Smailagić' and claims it is the work of Joseph von Hammer. 'Bosniaks' have a tendency to fabricate history like the Macedonians do, so I wouldn't take anything Hrulj says seriously. He desperately tries to draw attention away from the fact that his ancestor was a traitor to everything he believed in.

Nerkez Smailagic is just a translator.




As for other insults they arent even worthy of answering.
I just proved you a liar and it is clear who is trying to divert from truth. Its hard to see your miths debunked and thrown where they belong, serb?