Turks or Armenians: Which group is Whiter? Which group looks more European?

[MfA_]

The guy is obsessed with Armenians and he posted his ethnicity as Greek. I think he is an Armenian fake Greek.

Could be so, could be not.. I'd take Gregor or Armenian Bishop as references and they don't give me wannabe Euro/selfhate vibe.. This guy could be a part Armenian living welfare in the West so that would explain his OWD..

[Mehmet]

You are looking from religion perspective. Europe is today mostly atheist... You don't consider history or geography or politics. Why do study politics anyway you must study religion and become and imam in Vatican pray for 5 time in Vatican... Then you will be a muslimified catholic turkified french colombian...

Wrong. Not Atheist. Atheism is typical of Communism. It doesn't have a neutral stance on religion, it's anti-religion.
Most Europeans are actually not religious; but they all nominally have religion.
Religion lives as culture and identity, and it's still there.

Otherwise EU would have been Soviet Union which isn't the case.

[Rambo07]

Another troll thread lol.
Turks are very diverse, and many have a turanid influence. Aegean Turks and those around the Black sea are the most "European " looking. Armenians are more uniform in their looks compared to Turks.
Honestly though none of them are white , that term is for Europeans only. If your talking about skin tone. both of them more or less have the same skin tone on average.

[Sikeliot]

It depends. Turks on the west coast and in Istanbul tend to be very European looking due to higher influence from Greece and the rest of the Balkans, but in many parts of Turkey where you see Turanid influence, people start to look almost like some Mexican castizo types.. Also, some Turks look Iranid influenced as well.

Armenians are more uniform, but as a group they might be able to pass a bit better.

[Maleficent]

Anatolian Turks are genetically more Mongoloid, although it isn't that much. It honestly seems like Armenians are much more full Caucasoid. But the two ethnicities still manage to be indistinguishable from each other on PCA plots as exampled by OrangePulp's post. This is ironic of many ethnicities that hate each other and have a history of conflict: Turks and Armenians, Jews and Palestinians, Serbs and Bosnians......they all turn out to be pretty much the exact same ethnicity on DNA tests.

[Black Wolf]

Armenian Power!

[DarkSecret]

Armenian Power!

[Mehmet]

Turks and Armenians are very different groups.
Armenians are closer to Kurds and Iranics.
Armenians are fully Caucasian actually.

Turks aren't (10-15% Mongoloid).
So Armenians would be more European, more Europoid.

We are a lot more handsome guys than Armenians though. Armenians are majority ugly people.
Turks are majority decent looking people.

So being 'more Caucasian' doesn't mean everything.

An example:
Italians are more Caucasian than Finns or Russians (minor Mongoloid admixture too).
But everyone would consider Finns or Russians more European than Italians.

[Black Wolf]

Anatolian Turks are genetically more Mongoloid, although it isn't that much. It honestly seems like Armenians are much more full Caucasoid. But the two ethnicities still manage to be indistinguishable from each other on PCA plots as exampled by OrangePulp's post. This is ironic of many ethnicities that hate each other and have a history of conflict: Turks and Armenians, Jews and Palestinians, Serbs and Bosnians......they all turn out to be pretty much the exact same ethnicity on DNA tests.

That is correct. Turks and Armenians are very similar genetically overall. The only difference is that Turks happen to have some minor Siberian/North Eurasian that came from Turkic ancestors that Armenians appear to lack. What this shows is that both Turks and Armenians are overwhelmingly descended from the indigenous pre-Turkic and pre-Indo-European peoples of Anatolia and the Northern part of Near East.

[Maleficent]

That is correct. Turks and Armenians are very similar genetically overall. The only difference is that Turks happen to have some minor Siberian/North Eurasian that came from Turkic ancestors that Armenians appear to lack. What this shows is that both Turks and Armenians are overwhelmingly descended from the indigenous pre-Turkic and pre-Indo-European peoples of Anatolia and the Northern part of Near East.

Yes, minus the Mongoloid they are pretty much an ancient Anatolian with a little Caucasus and Mesopotamian people.