Turks vs. Georgians: Who are more European?

[Demhat]

This part contains a lot of missinformation even a linguist would laugh his fucking ass off

Please point to the misinformations, if I had any.

It is a known fact that words with Q sounds were replaced by K. Like Quwwat, Qalam (Pencil). Do you believe all the Arabic words that start with Q and are used in Turkish but with K phoenetics is just a coincidence?

1.The normal Modern Turkish alphabet does not cointain X W Q.
2. This is why there are no words that include X W Q.
3. Turkish is the only Turkic language that does not contain the usage of X W Q. Azerbaijani for example has it.
4. Ottoman Turkish did contain those phoentic sounds.

[Edgü]

Please point to the misinformations, if I had any.

It is a known fact that words with Q sounds were replaced by K. Like Quwwat, Qalam (Pencil). Do you believe all the Arabic words that start with Q and are used in Turkish but with K is just a coincidence?

1.The normal Modern Turkish alphabet does not cointain X W Q.
2. This is why there are no words that include X W Q.
3. Turkish is the only Turkic language that does not contain the usage of X W Q. Azerbaijani for example has it.
4. Ottoman Turkish did contain those phoentic sounds.

Sounds couldn’t be removed from oral languages / You can't change the phoneme just by changing the alphabet
the letter "خ" occurred only in foreign words

Proto Turkic


Standart Turkish


Turkic Tamga's (Alphabet)




Aye Understandable ?

[Altaylı]

I dont care whic one is more european

[Demhat]

Sounds couldn’t be removed from oral languages / You can't change the phoneme just by changing the alphabet
the letter "خ" occurred only in foreign words

Proto Turkic


Standart Turkish


Turkic Tamga's (Alphabet)




Aye Understandable ?

I think you don't get it primarily because you look at it from the purely Turkic point of view. No one was talking about Turkic vs foreign words to begin with. You are using Turkic Alphabet to prove your point that Ottomans did not have the Q, W, X sounds. Do you believe the Ottomans, that literally spoke a strongly Arabic influenced hybrid Perso-Turkic language had the same accent and phoenetics like Proto Turks? Are you mad lol

It doesn't matter if this sound came via foreign words because at least 50% of the Ottoman Alphabet was made up of foreign words as a matter of fact.

And my initial argument was Atatürk changed the alphabet, the phoenetics and pronounciation of words away from Ottoman Turkish to modern Turkish. And it is a matter of fact that even Central Asian Turkics have those sounds. Even if they didn't exist in your proto Turkic runes. No one was talking about Proto Turkic phoenetics anyways

And yes you can most definitely change the way a people speak by changing the alphabet and phoenetic louds. It's not like they just changed letters, with change of letters also came change of pronunciation.

But whatever, it's not very important to me anyways don't know why you brought that old comment up at all.