Turks vs. Georgians: Who are more European?

[Mehmet]

Georgians I'd say.

Georgians don't have the Western culture though. I read some articles on their culture; the Georgian state provides state-sponsored virginity inspections.
As a good chunck of Georgian guys tell I wouldn't marry non-virgin girl (and these people are Christian).
They have a similar culture with Turks.

Georgia operated its orange revolution and got away from Russian-Communist influence.
Both visas and passports with Turkey have been removed.
A Georgian can cross the Turkish border with his ID card, like a Turk crosses the Georgian border with his ID card.

There are plenty of Georgians working in Turkey.

And Turkey invests there to avoid Armenia.

Two examples:
- the pipeline carrying the Azeri oil doesn't go through Armenia, despite geographical proximity, but through Georgia (Baku-Tblissi-Turkey).
- the Eurasian railway line also avoids Armenia; Kars(Turkey)-Tblissi(Georgia)-Baku(Azerbaijan).

That's why Armenians are angry as they are and will forever stay a poor, thirld world country sucking Russian balls.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

I disagree here. I think people of the Caucus are indeed European. Hell, we allow them into our World Cup qualifying groups

Remember the archetype of the Caucasian race is the Georgian ethnicity.

Georgians look pretty European to me. Geographically they're native to an area considered to be part of the geographic continent of Europe.

Well, you're disagreeing with facts. Caucasians are not European, in fact, Caucasian people are Middle Eastern daughter populations. Nobody cares if they qualify for European World Cups, so does Israel, who's demography includes Non-European Jews. I suppose Yemeni Jews are European now, since some of them reside in Israel and Israel plays for the European World Cup. According to who? The fraud and charlatan that is Carleton S. Coon?

Also, geographically, Georgia is in the Transcaucasus, the border between Europe and Asia is the Ural Mountains. Georgia is below the Ural Mountains, it is in West Asia, only the North Caucasus is located in Europe.

[Longbowman]

Well, you're disagreeing with facts. Caucasians are not European, in fact, Caucasian people are Middle Eastern daughter populations. Nobody cares if they qualify for European World Cups, so does Israeli, who's demography includes Non-European Jews. I suppose Yemeni Jews are European now, since some of them reside in Israel and Israeli plays for the European World Cup. According to who? The fraud and charlatan that is Carleton S. Coon?

Also, geographically, Georgia is in the Transcaucasus, the border between Europe and Asia is the Ural Mountains. Georgia is below the Ural Mountains, it is in West Asia, only the North Caucasus is located in Europe.

Every European country has at least a few non-Europeans. I'm talking about the core demographic (which in Israel's case is now European Jewry). The genetics of the Caucasians suggests a close relationship with Europeans, not to mention how they look.

[archangel]

Georgians looks too eastern IMHO

[DarkSecret]

They both have semitic influence....

Also they both have too many ethnic groups...

[Damião de Góis]

Turks are closer genetically:

[orangepulp]

None are Europeans but Turks have more European admixture than Georgians. Georgians are almost pure blooded West Asians.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

Every European country has at least a few non-Europeans. I'm talking about the core demographic (which in Israel's case is now European Jewry). The genetics of the Caucasians suggests a close relationship with Europeans, not to mention how they look.

"Close" is a relative term, close compared to who? Also, Ashkenazim and Sephardim Jews aren't entirely European either, that's why they plot intermediately between Near Easterners and Europeans.

[Longbowman]

"Close" is a relative term, close compared to who? Also, Ashkenazim and Sephardim Jews aren't entirely European either, that's why they plot intermediately between Near Easterners and Europeans.

Sure, but European Jews are primarily European in ancestry (admittedly with some significant Semitic admixture) as per the various recent studies on the subject. Close meaning they'd cluster with or close to Europeans as compared to central Asians or Arabs or what-have-you.

[Sky earth]

Georgians are more European than Turks in every way