View Poll Results: How European do Turkish people look in general?

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  • Turkish people look like stereotypical Southern Europeans

    5 9.80%
  • Turks look mostly European / Most Turks look mostly European

    3 5.88%
  • Turks don't look very European on average / Only a minority of Turks looks European

    22 43.14%
  • Turks dont' look like Europeans at all!

    6 11.76%
  • Turks who look European are not real ethnic Turks

    6 11.76%
  • Turks look like Middle Eastern people on average/in general

    9 17.65%
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Thread: Germans, do Turks look European to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happycow View Post
    lol neo ottoman empire. What exactly are your intentions? Take over the middle east again? lol
    No not like in the past. More like an economical, political union. A free visa policy in the future perhaps like Schengen visa we might have an Istanbul visa. Arabs can't refuse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    No not like in the past. More like an economical, political union. A free visa policy in the future perhaps like Schengen visa we might have an Istanbul visa. Arabs can't refuse it.
    I see.

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    If by "European" you mean the likes of Greeks, Sicilians, and Iberians, then absolutely.

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    70% look Southern European, 30% look MENA. But many will say Southern Europeans don't look white, so take that as you will.

    Personally I would say they are darkwashed. Turks may be swarthy compared to German standards but they are pretty damn white if we compare them to say Pakistanis.

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    Most Turks in Germany I've observed wouldn't bat a second look in countries like Greece or Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Depends on what you consider European if the average German is the standard European, Turks can be distinguished by their features easily. But they are not dark at all, they have dark hair but not dark skin. And they pass easy in parts of southern and eastern europe. Even kurds do when I look at some Greeks how they look they are more exotic then most turks like that greek guy who they show who converted to islam. I forgot his name. He is darker then Bin Laden.
    I agree, Greek people are lightwashed like hell on this forum.

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    This is a tricky question because what looks white in America is different from what looks white in Germany. For example, in America Erdogan would easily be considered white. In Germany he would stick out like a sore thumb. It depends on the groups Turks are being compared to. Mediterranean phenotypes will get second looks in Germany and anywhere north of it, but Turks aren't brown to me at all, they are very white when compared to South Asians or Blacks. So it's down to perspective.

    But the American question of whether Turks are "white" or not is really not important at all because there is a very small Turkish population in the USA so they are irrelevant for any meaningful discussion. It's like asking about Central Asians. They don't have a large enough presence in America to warrant any purposeful documentation. Likewise for Spaniards who are often cited as "Hispanic" in the country as well.

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    The darkness of Turks is heavily overstated, it's just that Germans don't notice the fair-skinned ones. It's easy to say they "don't look European" when you're trying to identify them visibly, which a lot of the time isn't even possible. The question is inherently biased. Amount of Turks living in their country is higher than Germans assume.

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    Lol at all the thread bumps and obsession over whiteness, it's extreme even for a South Asian. Get a mental health assessment champ

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    In USA, I’d say a majority could pass for white IMO. Mediterranean phenotypes are fully considered white there.

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