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    The origin of the name doesn't mean anything. Many christian minorities in Ottoman Anatolia had to take Turkish surnames. In some cases their original names were translated into Turkish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    If it is M423, clade nomenclature probably changed so it is I2a1b now (23andme is slow in this).
    There are three types under M423 branch: Dinaric North, Dinaric South (western Balkans one) and Disles-Isles.

    Surprisingly M423 Greeks belong to Dinaric North clade to which most of Macedonian and Bulgarian I2 carriers belong.



    You can forget about Kurdish thing for now since Kurdish type M423 belong to neither of above mentioned types.
    I don't know if it is M423 just that it is I2a2b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQP4545 View Post
    Well on GEDMatch I consistently show 8-12% of some Caucasus region ethnicity; either Lezgin or Georgian.
    Could you specify that ? Scoring 8%+ Caucausus is relatively common for central europeans on some gedmatch calculators. Also it has probably nothing to do with your paternal line since the dominant I2 subclade in the caucasus region is I2c-B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armatus View Post
    Could you specify that ? Scoring 8%+ Caucausus is relatively common for central europeans on some gedmatch calculators. Also it has probably nothing to do with your paternal line since the dominant I2 subclade in the caucasus region is I2c-B.
    Dodedad K12b:

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 French 74.07%
    2 Georgians 11.89%
    3 Polish 4.28%
    4 Finnish 3.99%
    5 Bulgarians 2.36%
    6 Romanians 1.43%
    7 Mandenka 1.06%
    8 Mozabite 0.68%
    9 Japanese 0.24%
    10 Bulgarian 0.00%

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    Bodur is a common Gagauz last name.

    http://gagavouzis.blogspot.com/

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    Well you wrote I2a2b(M423). M423 is now actually I2a1b. M423 is more important designation. You have Greek ancestry. Greek I2 people mostly belong to Dinaric-North type since it is less likely to be I2a2b

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml

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    You can be an 'Orthodox Christian Turk(!)' actually; Gagauz or Karamanli.
    They have been shipped to Greece during the population exchange of 1920's; despite they used to read Bible in Turkish and pray that way.

    But if your ancestors were from Smyrna, I think you're rather Rum (native Anatolian who has been systematically Hellenized after Alexander invasion).

    Btw it's funny that Kurds run first to a thread involving Turk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post
    Well you wrote I2a2b(M423). M423 is now actually I2a1b. M423 is more important designation. You have Greek ancestry. Greek I2 people mostly belong to Dinaric-North type since it is less likely to be I2a2b

    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
    Right, but I don't know if it is M423, just I2a2b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQP4545 View Post
    Dodedad K12b:

    Pct. Calc. Option 1

    1 French 74.07%
    2 Georgians 11.89%
    3 Polish 4.28%
    4 Finnish 3.99%
    5 Bulgarians 2.36%
    6 Romanians 1.43%
    7 Mandenka 1.06%
    8 Mozabite 0.68%
    9 Japanese 0.24%
    10 Bulgarian 0.00%
    The point calc option often gives weird results especially in the second spot and below. You should run MDLP K=12 and post your results, it often detects (real) eurasian admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JQP4545 View Post
    Right, but I don't know if it is M423, just I2a2b.
    Whatever it is, it is a European lineage. I2a1b was before called I2a2b. As I have said 23andme still uses old designations, most probably as they usually do.

    Your father's ancestor probably simply translated his name into Turkish.

    If you knew you are I2a2b why did you write M423 designation next to I2a2b whose designation is L38?

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