Who have more genetic Greek ancestry... Cypriots or Pontic Greeks?

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 11-25-2013, 05:42 AM

I can't believe I never thought to ask this.

Genetically, Cypriots cluster separate from other Greeks, and head toward Levantines; Pontians cluster close to groups from the Caucasus such as Armenians, Georgians and the Laz.

Which group has more genetic Greek ancestry?

**Stormer99** · 11-25-2013, 05:43 AM

Pontic

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 11-25-2013, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by objectiverealist

Pontic

I think they have less. On 23andme, Cypriots get around half European, while Pontians are like 80% "Middle Eastern".

**Scholarios** · 11-25-2013, 05:44 AM

Maybe Cypriotes and/or Pontians are original Greeks and Greeks from Greece are outliers?

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 11-25-2013, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

Maybe Cypriotes and/or Pontians are original Greeks and Greeks from Greece are outliers?

They can't both be, since they cluster in different places. But if either, I'd say Cypriots. I have been told that for how exotic Cypriots often look, Pontians don't even look Greek at all.. the old poster Constantine13 who is no longer here said that Pontians stand out a lot.

**Stormer99** · 11-25-2013, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

I think they have less. On 23andme, Cypriots get around half European, while Pontians are like 80% "Middle Eastern".

Why do they score that much?

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 11-25-2013, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by objectiverealist

Why do they score that much?

Because if they have genetic Greek ancestry it's probably very small, while their indigenous Anatolian/Caucasian ancestry is very large.

**Scholarios** · 11-25-2013, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

They can't both be, since they cluster in different places. But if either, I'd say Cypriots. I have been told that for how exotic Cypriots often look, Pontians don't even look Greek at all.. the old poster Constantine13 who is no longer here said that Pontians stand out a lot.

Pontians are such a fabric of Greece I can't imagine their look as "unGreek", but they are relatively diverse as well.

Remember this thread?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...hern-Anatolia)

Btw, no needs to thumbs me down bros, I was just speaking rhetorically.

**HellLander87** · 11-25-2013, 05:53 AM

HE WAS MORE GREEK

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 11-25-2013, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis

Pontians are such a fabric of Greece I can't imagine their look as "unGreek", but they are relatively diverse as well.

Remember this thread?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...hern-Anatolia)

Btw, no needs to thumbs me down bros, I was just speaking rhetorically.

They don't look Greek nor Armenian to me and I don't know what I'd say. Maybe Georgian or something. Maybe I am biased because I know what they are like genetically.