Who have more genetic Greek ancestry... Cypriots or Pontic Greeks?

[Scholarios]

They don't look Greek nor Armenian to me and I don't know what I'd say. Maybe Georgian or something. Maybe I am biased because I know what they are like genetically.

I think I am biased too, but I'd be so bold as to say Pontians have their own look- clearly influenced by Greeks and also their neighbors. Remember, there were Pontians from ethnic Armenia as well as in Georgia and Ukraine.

[Sikeliot]

I think I am biased too, but I'd be so bold as to say Pontians have their own look- clearly influenced by Greeks and also their neighbors. Remember, there were Pontians from ethnic Armenia as well as in Georgia and Ukraine.

Of the Pontians on 23andme, they generally score like 75% "Middle Eastern" and 25% "Italian". So make of that what you will. If the Italian on there is southern Italian, which is similar to Greek proper, then maybe Pontians are genetically ~25% Greek.

Cypriots score roughly half and half, so I'd say they are more genetically Greek even if they are Levantine influenced.

[StonyArabia]

Pontians are just Hellenized Anatolians and closest kin to Armenians, and other Anatolian folks. Cypriots are Hellenized Levantines but do have some true Greek blood more so than the Pontians.

[Scholarios]

Sikeliot, you should make a thread displaying Pontian results next to Turkish results (please) in 23 and me.

[Sikeliot]

Sikeliot, you should make a thread displaying Pontian results next to Turkish results (please) in 23 and me.

I don't have Turkish results but I do have Elias Alucard on 23andme. Either way I can just show you a Pontian compared to a Greek islander and you'll see the difference. Greek islanders are said to have some ancestry from Carians (a SW Anatolian group) anyhow.

[The King, I am]

Personally to me those two Greek ethnic group are Greek only by name

[Stormer99]

Truthfully I think Eastern Sicilians and Calabrese are more Greek than either but what do I know?

[Equilibrium]

One thing is clear, both of those people are more ancient Greek than Sikeliot.

[Sikeliot]

One thing is clear, both of those people are more ancient Greek than Sikeliot.

Well possibly because if you add up my Polish, Portuguese, and Sardinian it is over half. But is there more ancient Greek ancestry in Pontians than in Calabrese? I doubt it.

[Scholarios]

Well possibly because if you add up my Polish, Portuguese, and Sardinian it is over half. But is there more ancient Greek ancestry in Pontians than in Calabrese? I doubt it.

Calabrians are a tiny population inbreeding for centuries. Pontians exist from the Crimea to Bosporus all the way around. There is probably more total Greek ancestry in Pontians than in Calabrians- but in Calabrians it's limited and concentrated.