View Poll Results: Who are more genetically Greek?

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  • Cypriots

    13 25.49%
  • Pontians

    13 25.49%
  • Both are equally genetically Greek and almost entirely so for both.

    10 19.61%
  • Neither one is genetically Greek.

    15 29.41%
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Thread: Who have more genetic Greek ancestry... Cypriots or Pontic Greeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    Calabrians are a tiny population inbreeding for centuries. Pontians exist from the Crimea to Bosporus all the way around. There is probably more total Greek ancestry in Pontians than in Calabrians- but in Calabrians it's limited and concentrated.
    If Calabrese are inbred it probably means there is more Greek in them since even if only a small amount was introduced in the beginning (which I doubt it was only a small amount), it's stuck around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Maybe I am biased because I know what they are like genetically.
    You are biased and you don't know what they are genetically, Pontic Greeks came from an area larger than Greece, so they were diverse... today Pontic Greeks are indistinguishable from other Greeks. They look more Balkan than West Asian usually.












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    Quote Originally Posted by kabeiros View Post
    You are biased and you don't know what they are genetically, Pontic Greeks came from an area larger than Greece, so they were diverse... today Pontic Greeks are indistinguishable from other Greeks. They look more Balkan than West Asian usually.
    Are those typical? If so they don't look West Asian at all.
    I am only going genetically by the Pontians I share with on 23andme who score 75% "Middle Eastern".

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    Pontic Greeks have Pontid and Alpinid as their main components, just like other Greeks. The only difference is that unlike the rest of Greeks some of them have obvious Caucasian and even Iranid influences. This is exactly what we would expect from a group of Greeks who lived isolated from the rest of Greeks for hundreds of years and interacted with very different peoples than they did. Balkan Greeks had contacts with Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbs etc while Pontic Greeks with Armenians, Georgians, Iranians... this is what marks the distinction between them, not their Greek ancestry.

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    This is how -the most swarthy- Pontic Greeks look like





    As with every group of Greeks, Pontians are stereotyped by their darkest individuals, not by their average looks

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    That one looks like Sicilian user MarceloBielsa who used to be here.. he also looks like someone else I can't think of who.

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    Cypriots are basically Hellenised Levantines
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    Well, he's darker than average Greeks, that's for sure. Although his looks are more common among Pontians you can find Cretans and Cypriots who look like him. Sicilians are not that far from this groups, so it makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by barberis12 View Post
    Cypriots are basically Hellenised Levantines
    Not. Cypriots are mixed, Greek and Levantine being their main ancestral components... they were mixed since day one, because when Myceneans settled on the island it was inhabited by Levantines who were quickly hellenised

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    It's true that mixed pontic greeks don't look pontic. 100% pontics look different though.
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