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Your mentality is 19th/20th century, rather than Medieval Feudal. You ruled those regions well into the 20th century. Therefore, your only defense is that you "conquered" those regions when there was no nationalism. Unfortunately, it is a lame excuse.
I don't know if you have noticed, but Greece, Hungary and even Germany and Turkey have certain similarities between them: All of them expanded beyond their natural frontiers by conquests, all of them suffered subsequent defeats which left a sizeable number of their ethnos outside of their current borders. Thus, Greeks had colonies in Egypt (expelled under Nasser) Palestine (small number of ethnic Greeks still controlling the patriarchate) Turkey and the Balkans (exchanged with population exchanges, a few still present) e.t.c. Hungary left considerably more people in Romania and Serbia, and fewer in Croatia, Germanys' immigrants in the Baltics, Czechoslovakia and the Balkans were finally exterminated and/or expelled during and after WWII, while large contigents of German speaking people live in Luxemburg, Belgium, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, not to mention Hitlers' own homeland, Austria, and of course Turkey shares a common language with a few former Soviet republics, a portion of Iran and various Balkan states.
Maybe you should stop whining about your losses, because ultimately, we all had losses in the long term...
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Hey Petros, Hungary had those lands when the countries that "have" them today didnt even exist.
The natural borders of Hungary were marked by the Carpathian Mountains
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Yes, these countries didn't exist, but still, those populations were not Hungarian. If you failed to assimilate them, then it is your fault for missing that chance, not their fault for running away and creating their own states.
Now that you are a part of the E.U., you co-own a much larger union than Hungary ever was, and yet you yearn for old Hungary because you have a lot of Hungarians living outside of Hungary, and not much because of "natural borders"...
Furthermore, I'm not so sure Hungary has a lot of natural borders in the proper sense of the word. You are a landlocked country, large rivers that could be used as natural borders slice your capital in half instead, and Hungary (or actually, what is left of it) is effectively a valley surrounded by mountains, making defence even more difficult (which explains why you are usually under somebodys' yoke)
Therefore, your only hope for a revival of a past greatness remains in a pro-Nationalist world of monarchies, but then you cannot apply for a nationalist mantle because you would contradict yourself.
Thus, ironically, your only hope is to see the return of an Ottoman empire in the Balkans, but honestly, the Ottomans shall never get a second chance. They might seem strong, but Europe has left them behind since a long time ago, and Ataturk is being worshipped in Turkey for being the most effective arselicker of European culture and values ever... and the Neo-Ottoman agenda is failing on all directions imaginable.
Since the Hungarians of Vojvodina were one of the few minorities which did not manage to split from Serbia, I can't see any hope other for you in this timeframe other than stand up for your minorities' rights in neighboring countries. You have the bad luck of living in the virtually landlocked region of East Europe, and it is a well known fact that people who have lived in such regions spent most of their life fearing for invasions... When they were not the invaders of course!!!
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Read this "greek".
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ntry-in-Europe
If we did to our minorities what the Turks supposedly did to Pontic Greeks, then we wouldnt have any problems today.
ITs none of your business what we yearn for or not, "greek".
Natural borders of Hungary, as defined by mountains and rivers, and history
[QUOTE=Petros Houhoulis;2143396](which explains why you are usually under somebodys' yoke)
Your lack of knowledge of history amazes me. Whats the greek excuse for being under somebodys yolk for the past 600 years?
Not really.
[QUOTE=Petros Houhoulis;2143396]blah blah blah/QUOTE]
I dont see how the rest of your rambling is relevant to anything, "greek".
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