Proto-Indo-Europeans(Aryans)

[StonyArabia]

I believe the proto-Indo-Europeans or Aryans would have looked like this


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[Roy]

It's believed that Eastern Europeans (Lithuanians & Russians in particular) are now one of the closest populations to them, but I wouldn't link it to any specific phenotype.

[StonyArabia]

It's believed that Eastern Europeans are now one of the closest populations to them, but I wouldn't link it to any specific phenotype.

I think that Eastern Europeans especially Northern Slavs and Balts are the best representatives of the proto-Indo-Europeans(Aryans). I believe that the East-Nordid and Nordid types were quite common in the proto-Indo-European population, who then intermixed with Old Europeans who eventually took on the language. Though I agree that phenotype wise they were probably diverse, just the dominant among them I believe looked similar to the people posted in my opinion, this is based on the Aryan remains found in Andronovo.

[Lemon Kush]

I think that Eastern Europeans especially Northern Slavs and Balts are the best representatives of the proto-Indo-Europeans(Aryans). I believe that the East-Nordid and Nordid types were quite common in the proto-Indo-European population, who then intermixed with Old Europeans who eventually took on the language. Though I agree that phenotype wise they were probably diverse, just the dominant among them I believe looked similar to the people posted in my opinion, this is based on the Aryan remains found in Andronovo.

They bare closest resemblance to modern day East Nordids. Mixing with Balts happened later.

[Sharkeatpeople]

yes, they all was Corded's.

[StonyArabia]

yes, they all was Corded's.

Yeah it seems that to be the case. It was these people that gave rise to the Indo-European languages that Europeans speak. I believe that pre-Indo-European Europe also called Old Europe or Old European probably had similar languages to Basque or was even more diverse linguistically before the Indo-Europeanization happened. What is also interesting that Baltic and Slavic languages appear the closest to the original proto-Indo-European or Aryan tongue. This explains why North Indians and Iranians often show minor Eastern European/Baltic and North European admixture. Since as the Aryans moved down to these places, elite domination took place and hence the result of the Indo-European culture in non-Indo-European Iran and Dravidian India.

[Sharkeatpeople]

Yeah it seems that to be the case. It was these people that gave rise to the Indo-European languages that Europeans speak. I believe that pre-Indo-European Europe also called Old Europe or Old European probably had similar languages to Basque or was even more diverse linguistically before the Indo-Europeanization happened. What is also interesting that Baltic and Slavic languages appear the closest to the original proto-Indo-European or Aryan tongue. This explains why North Indians and Iranians often show minor Eastern European/Baltic and North European admixture. Since as the Aryans moved down to these places, elite domination took place and hence the result of the Indo-European culture in non-Indo-European Iran and Dravidian India.

Yeah,their oreal spread was very wide, from India to China, from Iran to Scandinavia.

[Lemon Kush]

Yeah it seems that to be the case. It was these people that gave rise to the Indo-European languages that Europeans speak. I believe that pre-Indo-European Europe also called Old Europe or Old European probably had similar languages to Basque or was even more diverse linguistically before the Indo-Europeanization happened. What is also interesting that Baltic and Slavic languages appear the closest to the original proto-Indo-European or Aryan tongue. This explains why North Indians and Iranians often show minor Eastern European/Baltic and North European admixture. Since as the Aryans moved down to these places, elite domination took place and hence the result of the Indo-European culture in non-Indo-European Iran and Dravidian India.

Yup. Anthropology and history has showed that long headed and leptomorphic individuals are the ones who create civilizations.

[blogen]

Sorry, but no. The proto-Indoeuropeans in the Carpathian-basin were basically Swarthy peoples from Anatolia. For example the population of the Körös-Starčevo culture were basically Cromagnoid+Dinarid+Mediterranid+Alpinoid mix. The Cromagnoids were the descendants of the Mesolithic hunters, the Dinarids, Meds and Alpinoids were the Neolithic peoples. The Atlanto- and Gracile-Mediterranid elements turns into dominant later (Lengyel, Baden, etc.) and the Hallstatt peoples were mostly Meds (~60%), the Nordids only ~15-20% and there are Alpinoids and Taurids too (presumably the Beaker peoples).

And the Eastern European population are similar, mostly indigenous CM (Protoeuropid) origin mixed with Middle and Near Eastern elements.

So basically the Neolithic Indoeuropean peoples were typical Near Eastern population from the Caucasus (Dinarids, Alpinids, Taurids)-Anatolia (Mediterranids) region.

[Gospodine]

When you're talking about cultures from beyond 4,000 years ago; espousing any kind of Nordicised image of them is stupid considering the gene for lighter pigmented skin only arose as early 10,000 years ago and quite possibly as late as 6,000 years ago.

I'm sorry but back in 7000-4000BC, Eurasian nomads would have been swarthy mofos.

Also, as evidenced by the Andronovo mummies from Krasnoyarsk (circa 2000BC), the PIE peoples already had some Paleo-Siberian genetic input, with a number of C-M130 individuals amongst the remainder of expected R1a1 carriers.