The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

[KidMulat]

Most Africans who enslaved their fellow Africans were mixed race, or culturally Lusophone identified? I very much doubt that. I know most pre-colonial Africans didn't really view themselves as ''Africans'', but you can't really deny that black Africans did enslave other black Africans long before White men arrived.



This wasn't true everywhere.



Some of the African rulers did that but again, it didn't happen all across the continent.

No I said the people involved in the creation of Trans Atlantic Slavery were Mixed Race/Culturally Lusophone.

The known Slavers that I am aware of before Europeans were Afro-Asiatic speakers who called themselves "White" (the Fulani being one of them here is a good video on it)

I can look for a complete list, its a lot more common than one would assume.

[Celxon]

Then they are mongrels.

That's funny (strange). That's what Ferguson called them. They then beat him and his troops at the Battle of Kings Mountain. I prefer the PC term, "mutt".

[Celxon]

irish as in irish catholic then you claim Gaelic heritage. If so and if true you would have a Gaelic surname. Otherwise you are descended from Protestant Irish which are artificial Irish people. Not true Irish blood.

What if you're a Protestant Gael? Blew your mind, didn't I?

[Weedman]

Then they are mongrels. Germans settled mostly out west however did settle in New England, mostly Connecticut and Northern New York where their surnames can be found today. I do know some Scandinavians settled in Appalachia. But Germans? I find fault with this because I have never seen a picture of Appalachians with German looks to them.

without a doubt, there were far more Germans who settled Appalachia than Scandinavians-......you must be thinking about those few finns and swedes that settled in Pennsylvania? They have nothing to do with Southern Appalachia.

Germans in (Southern) Appalachia were in the minority. A typical native of (Southern) Appalachia has mixed English/Scotch-Irish ancestry and then a smaller degree of German added in. That is why most people there dont look German. but at the same time, a typical native of that region does, in fact, have a certain amount of German ancestry.

It's almost unheard of for someone from Appalachia to not have any German ancestry at all, and it's also almost unheard of for anyone from Appalachia to have more German ancestry than they do English or Scotch-Irish ancestry.

[Celxon]

EVERYone in the South has both Scotch-Irish and English ancestry no matter if they live in the deep south or Appalachia

You could say the same thing about much of the antebellum North. Look at Pennsylvania. It was Grand Central Station for Ulster Scottish settlers. I think that both Grant and Sherman were of Ulster Scottish descent. Jackson was largely English, even though he had roots in Ulster. He also had Irish and Welsh blood. I'm assuming that the O'Connors weren't Scots-Irish, though. "Neal", a name in his line, could be of more than one derivation.

[LightHouse89]

:

All four of my grandparents have ancestral links to various parts of Germany. Germans were instrumental in settling the frontier. You're right in that some settlers were of Swedish and/or Finnish descent (New Sweden), though. Don't troll me, bro'.

actually many 'Swedish' americans are Swedish Finns. I have a supposed ancestor of such heritage but don't claim it on my heritage list because it gave me little genetic impact. However in Gardener MA Swedish finns flourished under the furniture business. They alos enjoy chopping down trees and did pretty well in MA.

[LightHouse89]

without a doubt, there were far more Germans who settled Appalachia than Scandinavians-......you must be thinking about those few finns and swedes that settled in Pennsylvania? They have nothing to do with Southern Appalachia.

Germans in (Southern) Appalachia were in the minority. A typical native of (Southern) Appalachia has mixed English/Scotch-Irish ancestry and then a smaller degree of German added in. That is why most people there dont look German. but at the same time, a typical native of that region does, in fact, have a certain amount of German ancestry.

It's almost unheard of for someone from Appalachia to not have any German ancestry at all, and it's also almost unheard of for anyone from Appalachia to have more German ancestry than they do English or Scotch-Irish ancestry.

I have met more people in my neck of the words with German surnames than Scandinavian surnames. Infact Scandinavian surnames are so similar to English surnames here that in history it is easier for a Swede to adapt to New England than a southerner. One of the most common places for Scandinavians to immigrate to was Massachusetts in my neck of the woods. My ancestry does not surprise me based on historical information and my family tree book my sister created.

[LightHouse89]

You could say the same thing about much of the antebellum North. Look at Pennsylvania. It was Grand Central Station for Ulster Scottish settlers. I think that both Grant and Sherman were of Ulster Scottish descent. Jackson was largely English, even though he had roots in Ulster. He also had Irish and Welsh blood. I'm assuming that the O'Connors weren't Scots-Irish, though. "Neal", a name in his line, could be of more than one derivation.

Penn state rurally is more German.

[LightHouse89]

What if you're a Protestant Gael? Blew your mind, didn't I?

that is extremely rare as it was considered race traitor to convert.

[LightHouse89]

That's funny (strange). That's what Ferguson called them. They then beat him and his troops at the Battle of Kings Mountain. I prefer the PC term, "mutt".

then yes your mutts. I am not but a proud Alpine.