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The Black Irish of Monserrat
"Sometimes, I feel discriminated against, but it does not make me angry. It merely astonishes me. How can any deny themselves the pleasure of my company? It's beyond me." -Zora Neale Hurston
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It's still largely supressed by english news and history sources, which extend to america a little bit. Here is why there's been real temptation for me in the past to go back to ireland to fight, back when I was younger. I think that ireland would probably have joined EU anyway, though.
The situation in syria has some parallels to ireland in modern times, too. England funds a bunch of insurgents against irish, who conduct murder against anyone who doesn't have the right politics. But these are not indigenous factions, just hired mercenaries and ex military paid to colonize Ireland. And that is the mildest it's ever been, what continues to a small degree even today. It's really been a long term campaign of genocide and it's amazing that it hasn't been 100% successful. I can only thank my forefathers who were bigger men than I could ever be, that some of my family and people will continue on.
That's why Irish americans are a bit touchy today, and I see some of that in albanias, too. Unfortunately many or even most peoples have had to go through something similar and many are going through it today like christians in syria and egypt.
Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
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Being tiny island, with neighbor that's one of most powerful in world, who has no scruples at all. Yes it's a miracle. Like I said though there has been a big 'demographic change' in Ireland over the last thousand years. Especially in north and southeast. But in a way I think there's probably more Irish than if they stayed on ireland, even if they are more mixed up.
Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
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Not to question your ability to tell history as it is but what rebellion, indentured slave uprising, battle, bar brawl are you speaking of when you say "they fought for their freedom" in the colonies considering you said "they were released. But ONLY after they fought for their freedom"?
That's quite a tale. If I didn't know better I'd think you were confusing the Irish in America for the Maroons of Jamaica. Lolz@Romans.. a Turtledove novel, perhaps?They didn't actually have much choice. Imagine thousands of Melonheads running around in the woods with machetes and high caliber muskets. Supposedly that's how one of the first of my ancestors got here, btw. Like I said somewhere else, Irish people have always been fighting, but our enemies were people like english, scottish, and romans none of whom had any sense of mercy or fair play in those days.
Like the Duke of Wellington, am I right?Here is the part most incredible to me, that gets ignored. This is a lot of reason why, like I said before, most of Ireland is really not all that Irish.
Colley: rare: Dublin etc. English, 16 cent, related to the Wellesleys all of whom were settled in the Midlands. The name is also Ir. Ó Colla in Connacht but MacLysaght quotes a sept of Roscommon called Mac Cúille or Mac Giolla Chúille as another origin. MIF.
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/s...on=Go.&UserID=The Colley or Cowley family had come to Ireland from Rutland about 1500; Sir Henry Colley (died 1584) married Catherine Cusack, whose grandmother was a Wellesley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...ron_MorningtonRutland /ˈrʌtlənd/ is a landlocked county in central England, bounded on the west and north by Leicestershire, northeast by Lincolnshire and southeast by Northamptonshire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RutlandAn Englishman is more likely to have an Irish ancestor than an Irishman having an English ancestor. There was something called "The Industrial Revolution" and people did this weird thing called "immigrate" to big cities and towns to work in factories. The Irish immigrated in huge numbers. The Anglo-Irish population was small and like the Ulster-Scots rarely took native Irish spouses. The Anglo-Irish later fled to England, mostly; they were unfortunately being attacked.Even english have got some irish mixed in but it's just not the same compared to guys like my maternal grandfather...guys like him just don't exist any more, it's like peering into the past of humanity.
Before schools had standards for their education system?Everybody has gone through some amount of slavery but actually knowing history unlike most people, and seeing how much different I am to the people around me, I feel like some relic of the past myself.
What I love about Melonhead is he always throws in a "wtf" comment.And also, I have thought that many times...great words. Pirate/Viking culture is the origin of England and if you scrape a little it's still there. Great post, thanks my friend.
I'd say the Irish had it worse in Ireland in certain periods but when it comes to the colonies it's hands down Blacks had it worse. Obviously the Irish were too busy rebelling against their British American masters in the great but forgotten Boston beer brawl of 1692 that won them their freedom and so they didn't suffer nearly as much as Blacks.
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Stop the bullying, Colonel Frank.
Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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Also, it's pretty damned funny the guy you admire and use for your avatar, when you dislike me so much.
Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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The Irish did not, and never have, experience the kind of discrimination that black people have.
If you look at the white American population today, then you will see that, alongside German, Irish accounts for the greatest ancestry from Europe. This means they have been well integrated into society.
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