How long ago did the Maltese actually arrive in Malta from Sicily?

[Selurong]

You do not have a major in European Demographics, do you? LOL

I am too lazy too check, and I do not care enough, but French had only half the population of Germany roughly, maybe a bit more.

You are a newb, so FYI, I wasn't referring to the country, but my bud Malta.

What's with you aliens, so touchy!

Lol you're right Germany had a bigger pop that France in WW2, although France had a bigger one during the Napoleonic wars.
I just freaking romanticize that Knightly Order that's its own country lol.

[Sikeliot]

It just implies to me that Maltese are recently from Sicily such that it was during the Middle Ages.

[arcticwolf]

Lol you're right Germany had a bigger pop that France in WW2, although France had a bigger one during the Napoleonic wars.
I just freaking romanticize that Knightly Order that's its own country lol.

Well, you need to cool off, and descend from the clouds. See you were as cool as Sri Lankans and Thais when you were Buddhists, then Abrahamic faiths have been forced on you, and fucked up all your coolness.

Karma is a fucking bitch!

[Peyrol]

Some example of romance languages in XI century italian peninsula:


Protosicilian

Vinni in la Marina


Anno Domini nostri J. XP. MXCI, tempora quadragesime,

Vinni in la marina di li Mikenki, ora dicta Donnalucata, lu barb. Ammiro Belicani Saraxino, cum manio exercitu, per dixtruire omni phidili Kriptiani, et la nostra ixula, et lu barburu cani nun chi riuxio, chi lu populu di Xicli si moxi tuctu, e si armau, et accursi per costringherlo et farilo fughire, a quillo barbaru infidili: ma, videndo lo numiro di li infidili, grassi assai, se prostraro cum la fachia per terra, et pricando nos Xeniuri J. XP. et la Vi. de la Pietati, che essi camaru per darichi fortia et corajo, per dischiacare li barb. Saraxini, et illico et statim, videro in lu Chelu una nugola, che isprindea ut solis, cum dintra la Vi. MP. cum brandus in dextera, et chi rintronava a lo sou populo "en adsum, ecce me, civitas mea dilecta, protegam te dextera mea", si livaru di terra di un subito, et videro lo exercitu di li normandi, ut volociter acquile, per aiutarli et uniti tucti si moxiro ut fulminem supra quilli infidili et li destruxiro et fu tali la confuxioni et lo spavento, che si ucchisero ipsi stixi, ut more canis idrofobi; durau la punia quasi per uno jorno, et di poi li sacti xaxerdoti cantaru Tedeum laudamus, et lo Magnificat, accumpaniati di lo exercito, et la nocti tucti li normandi et tucto lo populo si rixtaro in lo dictu locu, per prigari et ringratiaru a Dio e Maria Vergine che li salvau di lu ecchidio di li infidili; la matina si arritrovao lu campu cum immenso numero di morti, at li barchi di li infidili tucti fugati, et poi si ringratiau lu gran Diu e la MP. Vi. et si chiamau, di li pii ss. saxerdoti, sata MP. Militum, pro siclensibus, et si stabeleo farichi la festa omni anno, in lo jorno sabato prechedente a la Dominica di passioni, jorno solenni di la punia, et cussi' fu liberata la nostra terra, per sempre amen S.T.L.

Scriptum in Tabula Ligni

Protovenetian (the ''Verona riddle'')

Se pareba boves, alba pratàlia aràba
et albo versòrio teneba, et negro sèmen seminaba

Proto-insubric (western lombard)

Fì senorzat da Peter e incalzat da Martì, [...] cola pena mal temprata no po fì bona letra.

A nomo sia de Crist ol dì present
Di des comandament alegrament
I qua de de pader onnipotent
A morsis per salvar la zent.
E chi i des comandament observarà
in vita eterna cum Xristo andarà [...]

Proto-orobich (east lombard):

I armi, i fomni, i soldacc, quand che in amôr
I andava d' Marz, af voi cuntà in sti vers,
Che fü in dol tèp che con tancc furôr.

Al vign de za dol mar i Mor Pervers,
Condücc dal re Gramant, so car signôr,
Che voliva più Franza e l'univers.

E destrüz sech Re Carol e i Paladì
Per vendicà sò Pader Sarasì.

Proto-piemontèis (the ''Sermoni subalpini'')

Les desmes e les primicies li chrestien feel Deu devent doner a sainte Eglise e as preveires et pauperibus, e devez saver por quei e per quel auctoritè furent trovees. Tut premerement que Deus feist nule creature, si fist dez ordines d’angeles. Or aven que per orgoil si chai lo desen orden de cel. Or Deus en lo’ de l’angel si mist homen.

[Peyrol]

Can we please stay on topic?


This isn't a thread about the Philippine or Asia, let's return to the main topic now.

[Selurong]

Well, you need to cool off, and descend from the clouds. See you were as cool as Sri Lankans and Thais when you were Buddhists, then Abrahamic faiths have been forced on you, and fucked up all your coolness.

Karma is a fucking bitch!

Nope Christianity wasn't forced on us we took it up willingly, since we deemed them Christians a powerful force in the war against Islam since at that time the Spaniards and Latinos who had arrived from Mexico had freshly kicked out the Muslims during the Reconquista.

And the Buddhists, despite the resistance were defeated during the Islamic sacking of Buddhist India under the Delhi Sultanate. In which case, only Sri Lanka remained Buddhist while the rest of India became Muslim.

Don't get me wrong, we were very faithful Buddhists then, but the Islamic assault was overwhelming. The Muslims controlled the land silk route and now they also sought to control the sea, spice-route.

We'll there was a Buddhist China to ask help from but they let a Muslim "Zeng Ho" keep the reigns and even supported the newly installed Sultan of Malacca, Iskandar Shah.

Much to our chagrin. If we can't even depend on fellow Buddhists for help against the Muslims who destroyed Nalanda and sacked the kingdom of Pala. We better seek allies from elsewhere, and these Iberians (And Latinos) who had expelled the Muslims in the reconquista looked more trustworthy. Than our "fellow Buddhist nation" China. But Buddhism wasn't that much a holy thing for them anyway since they are more Taoist and Confucian, than Buddhist.

[arcticwolf]

Nope Christianity wasn't forced on us we took it up willingly, since we deemed them Christians a powerful force in the war against Islam since at that time the Spaniards and Latinos who had arrived from Mexico had freshly kicked out the Muslims during the Reconquista.

And the Buddhists, despite the resistance were defeated during the Islamic sacking of Buddhist India under the Delhi Sultanate. In which case, only Sri Lanka remained Buddhist while the rest of India became Muslim.

Don't get me wrong, we were very faithful Buddhists then, but the Islamic assault was overwhelming. The Muslims controlled the land silk route and now they also sought to control the sea, spice-route.

We'll there was a Buddhist China to ask help from but they let a Muslim "Zeng Ho" keep the reigns and even supported the newly installed Sultan of Malacca, Iskandar Shah.

Much to our chagrin. If we can't even depend on fellow Buddhists for help against the Muslims who destroyed Nalanda and sacked the kingdom of Maurya. We better seek allies from elsewhere, and these Iberians (And Latinos) who had expelled the Muslims in the reconquista looked more trustworthy. Than our "fellow Buddhist nation" China. But Buddhism wasn't that much a holy thing for them anyway since they are more Taoist and Confucian, than Buddhist.

Understood. It did fuck up your cool though!

[Selurong]

Can we please stay on topic?


This isn't a thread about the Philippine or Asia, let's return to the main topic now.

You're right. Uhm let me ask. What impact did the Knights of Malta have in the formation of Malta?

Surely they also had an impact there and are all or most of the Knights of Malta also Sicilian in origin?

[Selurong]

Understood. I did fuck up your cool though!

No worries I prefer that people be earnest and honest about their sentiments to each other rather than being cool. Yes, being cool is good but being true is better.

And hehehe sorry for fucking up your good perception of Buddhist, most Buddhists are good and Buddha's philosophy is also good, it just so happens that we got hard-pressed by the politics of the era. I suggest you continue on studying Buddhism and be cool about it because Buddhism is a great world-view.

Anyway, back to topic. As I said before, echoing the words of my erstwhile kuya, Zhaoyun, Malta "punches above it's weight class".

[Sikeliot]

It seems also that most Maltese have one of maybe 10 Sicilian surnames, such that the population probably started out small of only several families and expanded.