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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Nope. Triracial. Average Costa Rican is around 13-14% SSA.
    Some will have less or more SSA but thats the average. 12-14% ssa look nothing like harnizos.
    I meant to change it to Euro-Triracial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    GEDMATCH doesn't represent alot of Latin American countries because they are done by their upper middle class. Even Vascontelo said that about Costa Rican results. The half Costa Rican/Greek girl was to show that 5.6% SSA is noticeable,10% ssa will show SSA and don't look harnizo.

    The most recent Costa Rican study done by regions.Central Valley is 10% ssa. Even higher ssa if the rest of the regions are included,so no Costa Rica is not a harnizo country.


    1)You would have a point if my costa rican gedmatch sample was 95% european. BUT YOU DONT as my csta rican gedmatch sample is 65% european and extremely similar to the Costa rican central valley sample of the study you are posting. Maybe it is not representative for all costa rica, but dont you think its similar to CVCR?

    2)Im not saying Costa Rica isnt 10-15% SSA. What i am saying is that there really are individuals scoring low ssa (mestizo like) the same way there are individuals scoring very high ssa. I would like to see a costa rican study barplot to check individual results.


    Anyway as i said in another thread its impossible to categorize latam countries when most are heterogeneous

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    She looks Puerto Rican,Cuban,Dominicana.She can't pass for Mexicana.

    ¿Cómo no va a pasar por mexicana, si en CDMX esta mujer contrasta como una griega en Bolivia? En México sería considerada blanca por cualquier persona no experta.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Over 10,000 dna results for Mexican-Americans and some Mexican immigrants. Those 2 studies make up 55% of Mexico's pop. We are talking about 71 million people.On average harnizo range . The best study ever done for people of Mexican ancestry because you had to have 4 grandparents from specific region to get put on the DNA study.

    ¿Dónde está el sustento de esa imagen? Me gustaría ver el artículo genético en sí, para comprobar su veracidad, una imagen es bastante fácil de manipular, me interesaría ver las pruebas de que fueron realmente 10.000 mexicanos, constar que provenían de ancestros mexicanos de clase media y ver el método efectuado. A mí me sorprende bastante, cuando en la mayoría de los estudios genéticos ajenos al GEDmatch (hechos por hospitales, universidades u otras organizaciones mexicanas donde los analizados no deben invertir) México sale en el rango predominante amerindio de entre 50% y 60%.

    También no puedo evitar sorprenderme como usted se ciñe a tomar esa imagen como la veracidad absoluta invalidando o cerrándose a cualquier otro estudio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    GEDMATCH doesn't represent alot of Latin American countries because they are done by their upper middle class. Even Vascontelo said that about Costa Rican results. The half Costa Rican/Greek girl was to show that 5.6% SSA is noticeable,10% ssa will show SSA and don't look harnizo.

    The most recent Costa Rican study done by regions.Central Valley is 10% ssa. Even higher ssa if the rest of the regions are included,so no Costa Rica is not a harnizo country.
    ¿GEDmatch no representa a los países latinoamericanos o sólo los representa cuando a USTED le conviene? Porque bueno, siguiendo su absurda lógica, México externamente al GEDmatch registraría muchísima más gente con -50% europeos que el avasallador alto 41% que ya registra en ese rango en el propio GEDmatch, contra el ínfimo 4% de Costa Rica en ese rango. Si según usted, “Costa Rica en GEDmatch es pred europeo sin SSA notorio, pero fuera de él es triracial”, entonces México sería indomestizo en realidad y no mestizo como en GEDmatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    Average Costa Rican would be 13-14% ssa. Most recent study of Costa Rican Central Valley is 10% ssa.The rest of Costa rica is even more SSA. Do the math. They look Caribenos not harnizos. I have seen videos and picture of San Jose,Costa Rica.

    What real harnizos look like
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...zos-en-23andme
    En San José se ven personas con piel clara basado en un punto medio de von Luschan en un rango de 30-40% dependiendo del video y en CDMX 8-12%, San José es por diferencia la capital más europea de Mesoamérica, mucho más cercana a Santiago o Asunción que a cualquier otra capital mesoamericana incluida CDMX y no sólo eso, sino que San José es más europea que una buena parte de ciudades capitales de estados norteños de México (Monterrey, Saltillo, Victoria, Tijuana, Victoria de Durango, Colima), también en San José se ven notoriamente menos indomestizos que en esas ciudades.

    SAN JOSÉ


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    En todo caso el promedio a nivel nacional de Costa Rica, sería Euro-Triracial, no “Triracial”. Es una imprecisión muy grande la que hay en este foro, que se engloba “triracial” indiscriminadamente del nivel o inclinación, mientras sí se separe “castizo-harnizo-mestizo-indomestizo” u “octorón, cuarterón, tercerón mulato, griffe”, siendo esta una categoría menor que la anterior (biracial). Y la “triracialidad” costarricense sería bajo un rango europeo muy superior al nivel de “harnizaje” mexicano. Si bien, es verdad que el componente negroide es mucho más fuerte que el nativo, la superioridad europea de Costa Rica hace que esa diferencia no sea palpable. Yo tengo por lo menos 7% de negro subsahariano y me veo más europeo que la mayoría de harnizos por clasificación que he visto en este foro. Los “harnizos” del hilo del chicano Carlos que pusiste son harnizos GENÉTICOS, pero varios de ellos no tienen fenotipo harnizo como tal, es decir, pasan por europeos exóticos o se inclinan más bien hacia el castizo. De modo que los harnizos mejicanos por fenotipo, vendrían siendo mestizos por genotipo (hablando por lo general, porque eso es algo muy variado).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KonanxB View Post
    ¿Cómo no va a pasar por mexicana, si en CDMX esta mujer contrasta como una griega en Bolivia? En México sería considerada blanca por cualquier persona no experta.

    She doesn't pass for Mexicana she has negroid influence. Maybe Costa Ricans can't see the negroid in her
    but it's obvious. LMAOO she wouldn't be seen as blanca in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    She doesn't pass for Mexicana she has negroid influence. Maybe Costa Ricans can't see the negroid in her
    but it's obvious. LMAOO she wouldn't be seen as blanca.
    She looks polynesian. She doesnt look black. She just has a small flat nose like tropical natives and tropical asians do.

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