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    Honestly I agree on having few children (1 or 2 max) because earth is over populated (really) but most people like africans/chinese/indians tend to spread and riproduce a lot, so we will end up to be a minority (or are we already?).

    Btw having few children is ok, the most important thing is to love them and to give them all they need to grow, I think this is better than the poor situations with the moms who don't have even the money to afford food and keep having sex and generating offspring.

    When I was at primary school I had a situation like that, there was a girl in my class, she had like 4 brothers, her mother was always pregnant, both parents were unemployed and heavy drinkers and smokers and they never had the money to dress her properly or give food to their children, this kind of situations suck balls, so is better to think twice before having children, imho it's not about "selfish".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeorgeGichaels View Post
    I disagree-European populations have sensible birth rates

    It's the rest of the fucking world that's selfish. They are the problem-not Europeans, but third worlders with more children than brains.
    Not selfish, just normal. Not self-destructive. It is not about birth rates only, but also about societal health. Many childless people is bad for the overall psychological state of the nation/society. It breeds nihilism and anti-communal attitudes. But it is a free choice, of one's free will. Together with the choice, once taken, one has to be aware of its consequences, both individually and collectively.
    Last edited by Poltergeist; 11-08-2009 at 11:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plotinus View Post
    Not selfish, just normal. Not self-destructive. It is not about birth rates only, but also about societal health. Many childless people is bad for the overall psychological state of the nation/society. It breeds nihilism and anti-communal attitudes. But it is a free choice, of one's free will. Together with the choice, once taken, one has to be aware of its conseuqnces, both individually and collectively.
    I meant selfish in the context of the article-of course it's normal to want to create a better life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    Hbut most people like africans/chinese/indians tend to spread and riproduce a lot
    Chinese reproduce a lot? Each couple is allowed only one child, as part of a government strategy to fight overpopulation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    Chinese reproduce a lot? Each couple is allowed only one child, as part of a government strategy to fight overpopulation
    Yes, since 1978, when Mao died. Prior to that they had the opposite official policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plotinus View Post
    Yes, since 1978, when Mao died. Prior to that they had the opposite official policy.
    Don't blame it on poor old Mao! He couldn't trust his advisors and his little abacus couldn't count the population boom he caused.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    Chinese reproduce a lot? Each couple is allowed only one child, as part of a government strategy to fight overpopulation
    and guess why the government decided to stop them
    and by the way, another big problem of china and india is that there is a lack of women (a lack of 80 milions), so many indian and chinese males are looking for a european or american wife

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    Pretty funny to hear a Rabbi complaining about this! Guess breaking down white societies wasn't such a smart idea after all, since the rest of the world doesn't seem to offer them any better deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groenewolf View Post
    If this rabbi is right, the neo-darwians are themselves unfit for struggle for survival. Since they follow an evolutionary bad strategy.
    Ever since this happened:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...&postcount=533

    Something like this has been needed as a counter, as far as society as a whole is concerned:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64513



    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    and guess why the government decided to stop them
    and by the way, another big problem of china and india is that there is a lack of women (a lack of 80 milions), so many indian and chinese males are looking for a european or american wife
    No, the just become Chinese Farmers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bard View Post
    and guess why the government decided to stop them
    and by the way, another big problem of china and india is that there is a lack of women (a lack of 80 milions), so many indian and chinese males are looking for a european or american wife
    Eh?

    Do you mean the male/female ratio?

    Sex ratio for India

    at birth: 1.12 male(s)/female
    under 15 years: 1.098 male(s)/female
    15–64 years: 1.061 male(s)/female
    65 years and over: 0.908 male(s)/female
    total population: 1.064 male(s)/female (2006 est.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

    Do you think that this equates to a difference of 80 million? I doubt it.

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    The Rabbi is absolutely right.

    But so what? European "civilization" is bound to change and absorb new ideas, peoples and values, given the instabillity and unsatisfaction with the superficial utillitarian values, and given the impossibility of returning to Christianity.

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