The political stance of the Iranian Azerbaijani people; Iranian nationalism or Pan-Turkism?

[Hayalet]

well, much of their ethnogenesis occurred when local Iranic(Azari) people along with Caucasian Albanians were Turkified.

If Azerbaijanis were Turkified, then Persians were Iranified in the previous millenium.

They are different from Anatolian Turks as they are not Anatolian genetically or culturally, plus Shia Islam serves as a barrier, besides, those in Iran are not separatists at all...

Do you have comprehension problems? If there is any Azerbaijani separatism in Iran, it will imply unification with the Republic of Azerbaijan, not with Turkey.

[Shah-Jehan]

If Azerbaijanis were Turkified, then Persians were Iranified in the previous millenium.

Except that Persians have lived in those regions since the time of the Achaemenids, Turkic people were newcomers, and by your logic majority of Azeris are a non-native population but, this isn't the case as they are almost identical to their neighbours genetically...

Do you have comprehension problems? If there is any Azerbaijani separatism in Iran, it will imply unification with the Republic of Azerbaijan, not with Turkey.

You said they were Turks, so...

[Hayalet]

Except that Persians have lived in those regions since the time of the Achaemenids, Turkic people were newcomers, and by your logic majority of Azeris are a non-native population but, this isn't the case as they are almost identical to their neighbours genetically...

Iranians didn't originate in Iran. If Azerbaijanis were Turkified, Persians were Iranified. What is rocket science?

You said they were Turks, so...

That doesn't mean they are the same as the Turks of Turkey. Both Turks of Turkey and Turks of Azerbaijan (aka Azerbaijanis) are subgroups of Oghuz Turks, who in turn are a subgroup of Turks in general:

[Shah-Jehan]

Iranians didn't originate in Iran. If Azerbaijanis were Turkified, Persians were Iranified. What is rocket science?

Iranians didn't originate in Iran? Both persians and Azerbaijanis are native to the country, things like IE expansion are controversial and there isn't really an exact location for their uremheit...

That doesn't mean they are the same as the Turks of Turkey. Both Turks of Turkey and Turks of Azerbaijan (aka Azerbaijanis) are subgroups of Oghuz Turks, who in turn are a subgroup of Turks in general:

that's what I wanted to hear. Yes, they are Turkic linguistically but, Yalquzfaq and others says there isn't much difference between Turks of Anatolia and Azerbaijanis...

[Hayalet]

Iranians didn't originate in Iran?

No.

things like IE expansion are controversial and there isn't really an exact location for their uremheit...

Iran isn't among the options for the possible locations.

[Shah-Jehan]

Iran isn't among the options for the possible locations.

Central Asia is, which was populated by mostly Iranic peoples before Turkic expansion...

[Hayalet]

Central Asia is

No, it isn't.

which was populated by mostly Iranic peoples before Turkic expansion...

Central Asia is where Turks had expanded from in the first place.

[Shah-Jehan]

No, it isn't.

Yes, most scholars say that IE homeland is in the Eurasian steppes, that is Southern Russia and Central Asia, it's atleast where they say IE went to India from...

Central Asia is where Turks had expanded from in the first place.

Yes, that is why a lot of Central Asians are more heavily Mongoloid the more north you go, while more Southern peoples, such as in the Turkmens who are 85% Caucasoid which have less Turkic genetic influence...Their migration to Anatolia and the Iranian plateau further dilated those genes...

[Yalquzaq]

Troll thread by a 15 years old child. Besides, who told you that Iranocentrist personal opinions and theories are actual facts? For one, they are arguing against a factual reality, secondly there alot of arguments to support this factual reality, so in short your first post makes no sense whatsoever. Besides, they are filled with alot of mistakes. To begin with, Azerbaijani Turkish has vowel harmony unlike what your quote claims. This is one of the key features of Azerbaijani Turkish as a Turkic language. Characteristics of Azerbaijani is also the closest to the language of Dede Korkut book which was written down in 14th century. So tell me, what is the credibility of these quotes?

[Shah-Jehan]

Troll thread by a 15 years old child. Besides, who told you that Iranocentrist personal opinions and theories are actual facts? For one, they are arguing against a factual reality, secondly there alot of arguments to support this factual reality, so in short your first post makes no sense whatsoever. Besides, they are filled with alot of mistakes. To begin with, Azerbaijani Turkish has vowel harmony unlike what your quote claims. This is one of the key features of Azerbaijani Turkish as a Turkic language. Characteristics of Azerbaijani is also the closest to the language of Dede Korkut book which was written down in 14th century. So tell me, what is the credibility of these quotes?

I am not Irano-centrist at all, Turkic people in the middle-east are descendants of the pre-Turkic people, alteast the majority of them...besides, this is about the political stance regarding the Azerbaijani mindset...