Japan sets out defence strategy amid China tensions

[BeerBaron]

This is actually very serious, when the Chinese gain the ability to throw American battle groups out of the region and start expanding it will mark the end of thousands of years of European rule.

[rob211080]

Good news for japan there military is under strenght and needs building up.The chinese have committed atrocities in the past aswell and they have been aggressive in recent years towards the japs and koreans.

[Loki]

Good news for japan there military is under strenght and needs building up.The chinese have committed atrocities in the past aswell and they have been aggressive in recent years towards the japs and koreans.

The Chinese haven't committed atrocities towards the Japanese.

[VAARON]

This is worrying, especially because of Japan's history of invading China and committing atrocities.

i think this maybe opposite this time japan no more socialist or post- socialist country

[BeerBaron]

The trouble as well is that it is setting up a regional conflict between the Chinese, the Japanese, and the northern border dispute between India and China, could erupt and drag the region into war.

The Japanese military is also very heavily funded and very well equipped. It's not, a shitty little army.

[Lurker]

Are the limits that were placed on the military of Japan in the treaty in ww2 still active today? Because from what I remember I think yes.

Those limits are self-imposed. The pacifist clause in the constitution was put by a faction of the Japanese government that regretted the events of WW2 a lot. Those limits aren't established in international treaties (Japan doesn't have a peace treaty with Russia/URSS, for example). After the end of WW2 the treaties Japan signed basically had to do with loss of colonial holdings (Taiwan, Korea, influence in Manchuria, etc), with the situation in some islands remaining dubious (those that China/Korea are fighting over with Japan), and with the establishment of a perpetual US naval base in Japanese territory (Okinawa). So Japan can disregard pacifism anytime she wants. Japan has refrained from constructing aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and nuclear weapons due to the pacificist clause in the constitution (everything else is fair game, however), but this could change with this Abe administration.

[Lurker]

The Chinese were wealthy before the Japanese invaded, but divided. The Japanese then caused poverty in China and just rationed them with rice.

China was not wealthy before Japanese invasion. In 1895 China was under the corrupt administration of the Manchu and already had the seeds of civil war (most of the military didn't answer the call from the central government when the war over Korea started, because the warlords were governments of their own basically), not to mention the after effects of the opium wars and the taiping rebellion. The boxer rebellion was basically a anti-western, anti-modernization rebellion, which proves that China was poor at that time and the Chinese were trying to remain poor (not industrialized, still retaining traditional beliefs, etc). Later China went through decades of civil war and then the failure of communism. China only got its shit together when Deng Xiaoping started opening up the country to capitalism in the late 1970s.

[ALSh]

The trouble as well is that it is setting up a regional conflict between the Chinese, the Japanese, and the northern border dispute between India and China, could erupt and drag the region into war.

The Japanese military is also very heavily funded and very well equipped. It's not, a shitty little army.

It is not a shitty at all but don't have nukes as China has. Anyway if a conflict happen, US would enter in war too to help Japan.

[BeerBaron]

It is not a shitty at all but don't have nukes as China has. Anyway if a conflict happen, US would enter in war too to help Japan.

Japan has been kept from nuclear weapons via an agreement under the US, it has demonstrated the ability to not only build them, but deliver them as well. But the agreement takes away their ability or need.

But its true, if the battle groups were allowed to open their guns up, it would tear China to shreds.