Native American Phenotypes [official thread]

[Zhulta]

this guy was full blooded miwok, but also had a almost full beard, so some natives can have facial hair, usually among the californid tribes i noticed they have often beards, so they are rather the exception among them it seems. but the guy i posted could have european ancestry, i dunno.
http://ranchobodega.org/tom_smith.pdf

[Hasien]

this guy was full blooded miwok, but also had a almost full beard, so some natives can have facial hair, usually among the californid tribes i noticed they have often beards, so they are rather the exception among them it seems. but the guy i posted could have european ancestry, i dunno.
http://ranchobodega.org/tom_smith.pdf

Most likely, I'm not really familiar with native U.S Amerindians, but most Amerindians from Central-South Mexico and central america tend to be very short and hairless.

Mayans can't grow not a single facial/chest hair.

[luc2112]

Eh no es así; todos los indígenas, tanto los de la primera ola, como la segunda, tercera y hasta cuarta llegaron de Siberia; la diferencia radica en que la primera ola es diferente al resto de las otras; ellos tienen más carga ANE y menos East Asian, en cambio la tercera y cuarta (Eskimos e Inuits) tienen mucho más East Asia y poco ANE (Y llegaron muchísimo después -Varios milenios- que los primeros Indígenas de la primera ola)

En el Sur solamente algunos de ciertas tribus indígenas (Como los Suriu en Brasil) y otras poblaciones en el Norte de América (Canadá y USA) tienen sólo un pequeñísimo porcentaje de de 1-2% de genes australo-melanesios; pero no es que su origen sea de Polinesia, para nada

El primer grupo es siberiano y tiene ANE (haplogrupo Q3-M3) y piel clara. Segundo y talvez un tercero son (haplogrupo C3) que son del noreste de la India (actual Bangladesh) son Mongol-Australoid con piel de media a oscura y no tiene ANE. Creo que encuentra grupos aislados de Q3-M3 en el Amazonas, pero el Amazonas también recibió la segunda migración, los Mayas son 50% Q3-M3. El sur de Chile y Argentina parecen tener una variación C3 con piel más clara y dolicocefalia (migración da Mongolia es el lugar más probable).

[luc2112]

Most Natives dont even look remotely (pseudo)caucasoid. In most cases even if they have high nosebridges and deep set eyes. their presence of eyefolds (even if faint) or atleast eyeshape and flat cheeks give away they are mongoloids, especially when they show low broad nasal bridge. If anything the tribes of north america in great plains look most pseudo caucasoid, even andids dont really look pseudo caucasoid and often have epicanthic folds and flat cheeks.


Tbh i am not even certain if amerindians like these are really 100% native or already to a certain degree mixed with european, these are natives wheree i would agree that they look pseudo caucasoid, pseudo dinarid, or atleast i can hardly see them as "true" mongoloids. maybe those really are reminiscent of paleo mongoloids akin to what the Yomon or pure Ainu were?

These two are Californid, Serrano and Maidu





These from the great plains areaa of various tribes

All you posted are Mongolian -australoids (small percentage of Denisovans). Some australois are Caucasoids, but unrelated to Europeans.

Q3-M3 (the closest to the European R1-ANE are Mesocephalic or mild Baltids)





C3 (Northeast Indian)



C3 (Chile- Argentine)

[Gauthier]

All you posted are Mongolian -australoids (small percentage of Denisovans). Some australois are Caucasoids, but unrelated to Europeans.

Natives in general are far from being related to Denisovans. They are the closest to Neanderthals.

[Zhulta]

This documenatries provide a good insight in amazon native phenotypes. Sadly i dont understand anything, the first one is russian and the others in korean, but i still found it interesting to watch nonetheless and i think you see a good representation on how amazonids look. Also interesting how some of the younger ones seem to have blonde or dark brown hair.



And also here Part 2






in case you are interested here are some more shorter documentaries about various indigenous people of the amazon including xingu and Zo'é people, but it is in korean.
Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...VXTg01HOYy41ss

Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...a77lVEJjoIG6-n

Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...DUzlrmnaYKRjoR

Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...t-BYZJGXPbHzQS

Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...wngxZL7dkA_aLT