"Out of India Theory" and "Aryan Conquest theory" are BOTH wrong?

[Shah-Jehan]

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[Proto-Shaman]

Another very interesting video:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Well if you want my real theory, it's that IE was a silk road lingua franca. It obviously came from somewhere, but no one knows where. It's a pretty simplified language group so it fits well as such.

[Proto-Shaman]

The nature of the Andronovo Kurganians is a conflicted concept with far-flung consequences. The ethnological assessment strikingly conflicts with the linguistic assertions. Ethnologically, the Ural/Siberia migrants, anthropologically defined as South Eurasian Anthropological Phenotype, and the “Indo-European” aka “Aryan” southeast migrants were completely incompatible, with the main aspect being in their relationship to the Kurgan Culture: the aka “Aryan” southeast migrants had none of it, as defined by the compendium of the archeological traits, plus the aka “Aryans” had agricultural vs. Kurgan animal husbandry economies, plus archeologically inferred organization of society, plus archeologically and anthropologically established marital relationships, plus aka “Aryan” religious ideology vs. etiology expressed in the kurgan tradition, plus markedly different phenotype constitution, plus opposing lactose tolerance. It is not inconceivable that such disparate societies would speak the same language, but the only asserted argument for that is the male Y-DNA, while not only the mother's language is carried over by the female mt-DNA, but also the same Y-DNA studies assert that Kurgan intrusions into Europe were linguistically non-Indo-European. Even unstoppable Mallory, who sees Indo-European in every Caucasoid, found it extraordinary difficult to connect Andronovo with Aryan migration to the northern India. He might find it even less acceptable that he himself belongs to the “Erbin” stem, converted to the “Indo-Europeism” only lately in the 19th c. If further research would confirm the L342.2 subclade in the Altai and in the Andronovo culture zone, it would necessitate a re-assessment of the L342.2 lineage in respect to its presumed linguistic, biological, and ethnological connections.

[Proto-Shaman]

Approximative frequency and spread of the lactase persistence T-13910 allele of the LCT gene. We can see that South Asians and Europeans share a specific mutation for lactase persistence. A correlation of that allele with Y-DNA haplogroups R1a1a, R1b1a2 (ex-R1b1b2), R1b1c (ex-R1b1a; a.k.a. central African R1b-V88). And at least haplogroup mtDNA H (quite visible in north Africa on the map) seems obvious.

Due to lack of a common name for bearers of R1b haplogroup (with subclades) and their languages in ancient times, which were carried for millennia and eventually brought to Europe as non-Indo European languages, I refer to them as the Arbins (from R1b), both the people and their original languages. One of those puzzles is what language or languages were spoken by the Arbins from 16,000 to 3000 ybp and it almost certainly was a continuing, in its dynamics, a non-Indo-European language. Assumptively, these languages are considered by linguists as assorted and disconnected “dead” and not-so dead languages, such as proto-Turkic, Sumer, North-Caucasian, Dene-Caucasian, Basque, and many pre-Indo-European languages in Europe of 5000 - 2000 ybp, some later. The language of the Arbins may have been originally one language easily flowing through millennia and across Eurasia. However, this is a subject of another study.